User talk:WikiDorset

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Your sandbox

I'm glad to see that you're making progress there! User:HopsonRoad 02:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikidorset! I can't see "Template:Financial market participants" on my iPad. So I don't know what it's supposed to do in your sandbox. I don't know what the proposed title to your article is, remember that it should be in bold. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 12:02, 10 March 2017 (UTC) User:HopsonRoad 12:02, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HR, I copied the template from the WikiProject Finance page. Templates are listed about half way down. I now believe that was a mistake, but don't want to delete it from the sandbox box without knowing whether that action would have unintended consequences. I've boldened the title. You'll see that there are very many links to other articles from mine. Should these not display references for each subject, rather than on my article? ThanksWikiDorset (talk) 21:23, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See the template that I placed in your sandbox. I believe that this is what you intended to do earlier. Note that "participants" leads to Financial market participants. Is this a parallel concept or overlapping with what you are describing? Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:41, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lead for your article

Hi WikiDorset, your lead paragraph might look something like this:

Securities market participants include persons and institutions on both sides of transactions in various securities markets, and also those facilitating and regulating the transactions. Such transactions are typically among investors or custodian banks buying or selling securities that are executed through a broker-dealer or other transfer agent, such as a prime brokerage in the environment of a stock exchange or other capital market. These transactions may be monitored by a securities commission. This article primarily describes market participants in the United States, but notes differences in practices elsewhere.

Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 12:25, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another comment about your lead: The first sentence should define the scope of the topic, as you have done. There should be at least a sentence per major section to summarize the contents of the article in the lead paragraph. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 16:39, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Table for your article?

WikiDorset, you may find the following table and non-"weasel" intro useful:

Transactions may occur in four ways, where buying or selling may be "short" or "long", as follows, when the trader in securities:

Transaction	Short	Long
Buy	Borrows funds for securities	Pays for securities outright
Sell	Borrows securities to sell for funds	Has securities to sell outright

Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 16:17, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template for your article

I took the liberty of adding the {{Financial market participants}} template that you appeared to want, earlier. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Scope of your article

It's OK to make your article specifically about US practices, if you don't have enough information to characterize word-wide practices or they're too diverse to characterize. In this case the article might be called, "Securities market participants (US)". Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 15:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to launch!

Hi WikiDorset,

I believe that I provided references where needed. I suggest that the article be titled, Securities market participants (US). You can create it by clicking on this red-letter link: Securities market participants (US). You would then paste the contents of your sandbox into the edit box and type "New article" in the Edit summary box. You would then go to the bottom and unmask the categories, which are now hidden by . Congratulations on all your work!

Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 13:55, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for your help. WikiDorset (talk) 19:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Did you not want to bring the Template across? User:HopsonRoad 19:54, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not at this point. I think it can wait until we decide how to make template lists more consistent. I did put the WikiProject Finance on Talk WikiDorset (talk) 19:58, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I put the project boxes with rating on the talk pages. Apparently, I was wrong about the titling convention. The article title is now Securities market participants (United States). User:HopsonRoad 20:06, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A place for your article

Hi WikiDorset,

I suggest that, when we've tidied up what you have developed here, we announce it at Talk: Financial market participants as material that we plan to substitute for what's there. There's been little substantive action in the Financial market participants article, which has been tagged for lack of references. Your material is much more appropriate, IMO. We would title it, Financial market participants (US).

If we did that, we'd leave notice on the project bulletin board and notify recent major contributors. What do you think?

Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 20:35, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HR I gave notice to the WikiProject Finance people on 7 March of my joining via Talk, and asked for responses. Silence since leads me to believe :that there is no one left minding the project. As the to Financial market participants article, it does not attempt to define what financial :instruments constitute the market. An obvious one that's missing is Foreign exchange. At this point I don't want to take on the revision of that :article, because the scope is very large. Better to stay with Securities. Thanks

Thanks for clarifying that, WikiDorset. So, on Template:Financial Markets, there is a category, "Participants", which leads you to Financial market participants. The template seems to have many of the same players as cited in your article. Is it structured with the elements that you need? Or should we put your article at the bottom of Template:Financial markets under "Related areas"? One issue is that both templates are global in scope, whereas your article is US-centric. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 22:38, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HR, thanks for your edits. I continue to learn. However, I do have two issues. The first is that we reference the two commissions twice in the first two paragraphs, then again when describing the stock exchanges. When we get to the commissions themselves, there's nothing left to say. The second is the reference to the Financial Conduct Authority. All the commissions work with each other, and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of expanding this article to deal with that subject. As to your point above, I believe the templates need to be reworked as they a) don't address all the financial instruments, and b) clearly started out with a US perspective. That's a project for another day.

Fair point, WikiDorset. What we can do is move the material that elaborates the roles of the SEC and the CFTC down to the section covering them and expand the stock exchange introduction. (Don't forget to sign your posts with a ~~~~!) Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 20:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed. Thanks WikiDorset (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! Your first disambiguation! The first message here was actually from a "bot"—an automated program that checks for ambiguous links. So, it doesn't expect a reply! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:19, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good point about the bot. You may have noticed that someone also changed the title from US to United States. More details to learn :)WikiDorset (talk) 21:28, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I did notice. That was my bad advice to think that (US) would suffice! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:42, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How to merge

Hello wikidorset - welcome to the show. One of things I do is merge pages to clear the backlog of proposed mergers. I notice you've done some merging recently. I've left some messages on the relevant Talk pages but I thought I'd explain here so as not to put you off! The right way to merge pages is at WP:MERGE. It involves, among other things, putting templates on to the pages themselves (not the Talk pages) to generate discussion, if that's required. You can carry out a WP:BOLD edit too without discussion. If you would like help, please leave a message on my Talk page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:14, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. Much to learn, and too thick to ever be put off. WikiDorset (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Investment

Hey there! I just re-launched the WikiProject Investment.

The site has been fully revamped and updated and I would like to invite you the project.

Feel free to check out the project and ping me if you have any questions.

I'd like to invite you to join the Investment WikiProject. There are a lot of Investment related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help get this project off the ground and a few Investment pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks!

Cheers! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 20:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]