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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jan Poolman (April 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

looks like it has been copied and pasted from somewhere?

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Theroadislong (talk) 20:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Wikicluck44! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 20:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Jan Poolman has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jan Poolman. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jan Poolman (April 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Velella was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I am sure that he probably is notable but just not on the evidence provided here. The firts two sources are supposed to confirm that he is "Head of Bacterial Vaccines at Johnson & Johnson" which they do not. In the leded it is claimed that "is a developer and serial inventor of bacterial vaccines." but I struggle to find sources here which say that. Clearly a prolific and senior scientist who probably deserves a place here but the claims need to be matched by the sources which need to be much wider than links to papers he has co-written. It would also help enormously if the references were formatted per Wikipedia's referencing conventiosn so that they can be read by a clickable link.

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Velella ^{Velella Talk} 16:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Jan Poolman has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jan Poolman. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 15:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing on Jan Poolman article

As I noted in a review of your Draft:Jan Poolman, one of the problem is trying to see what the refs actually say. I have structured three of the references into standard Wikipedia standard referencing format. It would be very helpful if you could complete that task. However, from what little I have seen in the work that I have done, there is very little point in using academic literature as a source if all it does is demonstrate that the subject is an academic - we know that already. For most notable people 4 or 5 good refs will do with additional ones to support potentially contentious items. Acadamic papers, especially when they have more than one author, very rarely perform that function. Regards Velella ^{Velella Talk} 16:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Velella, first of all thanks for your review. I will work on your comments and make the references according to the standard referencing format. Your first comment was that I should show that Poolman is head of bacterial vaccines... and that the 2 references 1 and 2 were not about his function. That I agree with, the references were on the bacterial pathogens E. coli and S. aureus. And when I add linkedin as a source, I get the remark from theroadislong that linkedin and blogs are not accepted as links... Do I need to prove that Poolman is head of bacterial vaccines?

I am new at this field - If I work on it in the current settings and I save my changes with ctrl-enter, it is not being resubmitted isn't it - Or do I have to take it back to my 'sandbox' and work on it there before adjusting my article here?

I will work on a new version, because to my honest opinion this Dutch scientist Poolman is worth a wikipedia page, mainly because he has contributed with his R&D team to eight bacterial vaccines during his period as head of Bacterial Vaccines of GSK, And those vaccines are implemented in most of the national immunization programs and still in use, saving lives every day.

I will check language and references for other scientists with a wikipage and see what is approved and what not.

Once again, I thank you for your review and will resubmit when I am done adjusting the wikipedia page.

best Wikicluck44 (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Jan Poolman has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jan Poolman. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Jan Poolman has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jan Poolman. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jan Poolman (June 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Mgp28 was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

While there are many references, some paragraphs and sections have none at all. I have added citation needed tags in a few places where I felt statements needed to be supported by a reference.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Mgp28 (talk) 16:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jan Poolman (September 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by SafariScribe were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jan Poolman and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Jan Poolman has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jan Poolman. Thanks! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Safari Scribe, could you please indicate what kind of references are needed to get this wikipedia page accepted and published. Since my first draft I have changed language and added many references in the form of papers or independent interviews which proofs that Jan Poolman contributed seriously to bacterial vaccines that are currently given to children that saves a lot of lives. And with that he is wikipedia worthy. Since there are also pages for example Jaap Goudsmit and Hanneke Schuitemaker, who never brought any vaccines to the market. While Jan Poolman contributed to the development of several bacterial vaccines that are still in use. Thanks in advance for your reaction, best Wikicluck Wikicluck44 (talk) 18:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I make it much shorter and with only bullet-wise points, would that make it acceptable for you to publish the page on Jan Poolman? Wikicluck44 (talk) 19:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]