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August 2021

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 21:12, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion. I saw in Leningrad that Iraqi Oghuz literature included the name Oghuz "Turkmen"; the word "Turkmen" actually means "nomadic Oghuz." In any case, the "Turkmen" of Aq qoyunlu and Qaraqoyunlu are Azerbaijanis. 

Source: Gerhard doerfer, Turks in Iran, p. 248 Zamuel2000m (talk) 21:15, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tarihi sahteleştiren sizlersiniz Zamuel2000m (talk) 21:52, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You do know there is such a thing as Google Translate, right? Do not attack other users, and do not cause further disruption or you will be reported to WP:ANI. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you not state that the Aq qoyunlu and Qara qoyunlu states are an Azerbaijani dynasty?

Hasan bey Rumlu writes about him: "Qara Iskander ibn Qara Yusif was extremely brave and courageous. He ascended the throne after the death of his father. and showed heroism. In the end, he fled to Rome because he lost it, and after Mirza returned, he came to Azerbaijan and sat on the throne. "

It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion. I saw in Leningrad that Iraqi Oghuz literature included the name Oghuz "Turkmen"; the word "Turkmen" actually means "nomadic Oghuz." In any case, the "Turkmen" of Aq qoyunlu and Qaraqoyunlu are Azerbaijanis. 

Source: Gerhard doerfer, Turks in Iran, p. 248

History deserves to be told impartially, this should be expected from you wikipedia users.

Zamuel2000m (talk) 21:59, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How does that support your inclusions? Just because Azerbaijan is mentioned? You know it's a historical region, right? Also, secondary sources are preferred over primary sources anyways. And yet you are attacking other users, how rich. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You do know that there is a geographic terminus in Iran, right? But, like the Safavids, you introduce a Turkish-speaking state from the army to the tut dynasty as the Iranian state.

The Garagoyunlu state has a special place in the history of Azerbaijan.

The Garagoyunlu and Aghgoyunlu states are a Turkic state that caused the formation of the Azerbaijani people as a nation and a language. The Azerbaijani language was formed during the Garagoyunlu and Aghgoyunlu states.
At the same time, the dynasty language of the Aghkoyunlu and Garagoyunlu states is Azerbaijani Turkish.  Tribal associations of Oghuz origin called Garagoyunlu and Aghgoyunlu have been nomadic in Anatolia since the 13th century.  The central province of the Garagoyunlus was Ercis, north of Lake Van, and the region where the Aghgoyunlus were concentrated was Diyarbakir.  Both tribes belonged to the same ethnic group called the Turkmen, and the means of communication were the southern dialect of the Azerbaijani language.
The adventure of "Divan" is as interesting as the life of the poet.  Researchers thought that the sofa was lost because they were unaware of it for a long time.  And only in 1961 the secret of the manuscript was revealed.  It turned out that Haqiqi's "Divan" was kept for a long time in Istanbul, in the palace library of the Turkish sultans.  During the reign of Sultan Abdulhamid, the manuscript disappeared from the library, and later found in the library of Alexandria, Egypt.  However, he later disappeared from here and traveled around the world to London.  The famous orientalist Minorsky met him here.  However, the manuscript does not remain here.  The manuscript, which falls into the personal archive of Armenian collector Harutyun Ghazaryan in New York, is brought to the University of Yerevan, according to his will, like other works here.  Azerbaijani scientist Latif Huseynzadeh found "Divan" here, worked and published it.  Firuz Refahi Alamdari found the Jahanshah's latest manuscript divan in the central library of Tehran University and published it in Tehran.  This manuscript is considered to be the most perfect manuscript ever discovered.
Jahan Shah wrote poems in Azerbaijani Turkish and Persian under the nickname "True".  Jahan Shah corresponded with one of the famous poets of the time, Abdurrahman Jami. In his time, well-known scholars taught at the Blue Mosque.  The famous Islamic scholar Jalal al-Din al-Dawwani taught here and wrote the Risale-i Zawra and Shawakul al-Khurj.  The poet Mevlana Tusi served in the palace of Shahbudag, the son of Jahan Shah.


In 1468, Uzun Hasan defeated Hasanali and founded the Aghgoyunlu empire.
During the reign of Uzun Hasan, the Aghgoyunlu empire became a powerful military-political factor in the entire Middle East.  Uzun Hasan pursued a policy of creating a strong centralized state.  He drafted a special "Legislation" for this purpose.
During the reigns of Aghgoyunlu rulers Uzun Hasan, Sultan Khalil and Sultan Yagub, it was the peak of the development of science and art in the Aghgoyunlu empire.  About 60 scholars worked in the ruler's personal library.  There was a scientific meeting of prominent scientists of the time in Uzun Hasan Palace.  The great ruler translated the Holy Quran into Azerbaijani Turkish and wrote an Oghuz letter entitled "Kitabi-Diyarbakiriya" to Abu Bakr al-Tehrani, a prominent scholar of the time. Zamuel2000m (talk) 22:22, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DID YOU KNOW? SULTAN CAHAN SHAH WROTE IN TRUE AZERBAIJANI TURKISH

The founder of the Garagoyunlu state was Gara Yusif's successor, his son Jahan Shah (1436-1467), who was the first among the Garagoyunlu rulers to receive the rank of sultan.  According to historians, he was considered the most powerful and influential ruler of the Garagoyunlu state, as well as a highly educated philanthropist.
In general, during the reign of Jahan Shah, the Garagoyunlu state prospered, and the vast territories under its control turned it into a great empire.  Garagoyunlu became one of the important Islamic states with a developed political, administrative, military, economic and cultural system at that time.
Jahan Shah was also known as a poet who wrote in Azerbaijani Turkish under the pseudonym "Haqiqi". There are two manuscripts of his sofa.
Minorski writes that, in general, the language of Jahan Shah's poems belongs to the group of southern Turkmen dialects known as "Azerbaijani Turkic". Zamuel2000m (talk) 22:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Talk:Azerbaijan. Your pro-Azerbaijani nationalist POV-pushing will not be tolerated.LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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