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Hello Zanoni. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Joe Dudgeon, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article makes a credible assertion enough to pass A7. Probably fails WP:FOOTY though so you might want to take it to WP:PROD or WP:AFD. Thank you. Nancy talk09:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello Zanoni. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Robert Brady (Irish Footballer), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Nancy talk09:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello Zanoni. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Zomato, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. GedUK16:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Removing PROD BLP tag
Please do not remove proposed deletion of biography of living person (Prod blp) templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Wendy MacNaughton, without providing sources, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Although you added a speedy deletion tag, the PROD BLP notice should have also remained in place, because if the speedy deletion is declined the PROD BLP is still valid. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
It was my PROD BLP which I added and then realised that speedy delete was probably more appropriate and deleted- but point (partially) taken. Zanoni (talk) 12:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I see that you had put it there yourself, but I still think it would be better to leave it there, for the reason I gave. However, perhaps the wording of my message wasn't ideal, since you were removing your own tag. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I removed the BLP prod tag you placed on Ian Edmonson (since moved to Ian Edmondson), as an editor has added at least one reliable source to support at least one claim made in the article. Feel free to nominate for regular prod or AfD if you still believe the article should be deleted. —KuyaBriBriTalk18:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
tag on Bert Muhly page
HI, I note in 'my talk' that you seem to still have a tag on the Bert Muhly page, asking for references. I am new to all of this, but think I have cleaned it up. Is there something more I should be doing? Catherine Banghart — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catherine Banghart (talk • contribs) 21:55, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! - thanks for asking I proposed deletion originally as all biographies of living people added to wikipedia need to be referenced, and the article did not originally cite and references - see WP:BLP for full details of why this is important. I see now that you have added some references so this is why another editor has now removed my proposed deletion. I see from looking at the article that some of the references you have added are from wikipedia - WP:SOURCES should be read - wikipedia itself is not generally considered a legitimate source to reference - neither are self-published sources - also read WP:SPS to see what this means. You might also like to look at the style for recording references within article - WP:CITE. I would assume this article is your own content - if not then you should also look at WP:CP as well and be aware that content from other non-free sources can also be deleted. Hope this helps Zanoni (talk) 13:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Article about a footballer who fail WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. His cup appearance does not grant notability as it was not against a fully pro team.
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I don't have a particularly strong view on this - and in fact I even queried my creation of the articles on a discussion at WP:FOOTBALL - see 101 at [1]Zanoni (talk) 22:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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OK - thanks for letting me know - I missed that PROD. I've started a discussion at Project Football as I don't want to AfD if there's any consensus around the UEFA preliminary match. Zanoni (talk) 11:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Your recent edits
Can you explain where the consensus was reached to justify the edit summary on some of your recent edits: "(please don't list players unless they are themselves notable. As footballers that would probably require promotion to a professional league)"? Thanks. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 11:35, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Thirded, we have never removed squad lists from non-league teams just because the players aren't notable. Out of date/fake/unreferenced - yes. GiantSnowman14:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough -i personally don't see notability for individual players at the real lower league. Many of the lists i removed where out of date/incomplete and in a small number so cases. I am happy to restore those who are not Zanoni (talk) 15:55, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
I've reverted edits where appropriate. There are still some where the edit will read "please don't list players unless they are themselves notable. As footballers that would probably require promotion to a professional league" but these will apply to squad lists deleted because they are hopelessly out of date (and show so) - i.e. from 2009/10 season. Zanoni (talk) 09:39, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
That's a valid point, but I don't think it means they should be deleted outright though. I've suggested a drive at WT:FOOTY to get non-league squad lists up to date when next season begins. —BETTIA—talk15:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
I reverted your addition of the Ulster Banner to the above article as by birthright those players are eligible to also play for the ROI and per MOSFLAG we don't use flags to indicate the birth place of anyone. Mo ainm~Talk22:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not fussed really, but some of them have represented Northern Ireland at youth and B international level.Zanoni (talk) 22:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
But so did Darren Gibson until they have played a full international they can switch, a flag shouldn't be used but not fussed myself if there are sources to show they have played youth internationals I would tend to leave them on the page myself. Mo ainm~Talk22:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
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Romelu Lukaku
If this sort of petty editing continues then I would suggest you go for page protection again. It had been protected for two weeks prior to yesterday because of me and as soon as it expires, the brown stuff hits the proverbial fan. I can't understand how protection wasn't extended. It'll carry on all summer if left as it is. Argyle 4 Lifetalk11:49, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and requested indefinite semi-protection because I had to remove the usual nonsense three times in the space of ten minutes. I knew what to expect when I added this fellow to my watchlist but it's still ridiculous. Argyle 4 Lifetalk14:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I would say that three months of protection is a good result. Couldn't have asked for better really since it expires after the transfer window closes. Argyle 4 Lifetalk17:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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What do you think about their skill as football player? As I noticed that you're a Liverpool fan, I thought you could follow it. SirEdimon (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that you deleted the history I added to this page due to a copyright violation? As the club secretary of Bristol Manor Farm I wrote the history for the BMF Website and added it to Wikipedia. As the author, it is therefore my copyright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyrads (talk • contribs) 19:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Darlington
Hello. Was wondering if you could point me to the source for your removing Darlington from John McReady's article, and for removing McReady (and Phil Gray) from the squad lists? McReady and Phil Gray were contracted for next year (the only two who were), DFC1883 were required to honour those contracts, and assuming DFC1883 were still paying them, they should still be under contract. Has the situation changed? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, assumed they all were released with the new players being signed. I have re-added them to the squad template and main page. I'd had a quick look at the Darlington main website and given there had been no news since the end of the season I assumed all the players from the old team. 10:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
No problem. For obvious reasons it isn't easy keeping up with the current state of play, and for all I know, messrs Gray and/or McReady might have found alternative employment by now. There is no official website at the moment, though they're working on setting one up. DFC1883 are answering queries at the Darlo Uncovered forum, and the Northern Echo is good for definite news, but in the club's current circumstances there isn't an awful lot of really definite news. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:41, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Re the category you're adding: the club's called just Darlington 1883, not Darlington 1883 F.C. The category should be named similarly. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:30, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey, guessing you are an editor for the liverpool fc page, just letting you know that Mukendi is on loan at northampton until 1st January 2013 and not the whole season or the season 2011/2012 which was stated! hope you can fix it, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.222.208 (talk) 13:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Andre Wisdom
An article meets GNG if it has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" - it has nothing to do with professional appearances. Basic stuff. GiantSnowman21:06, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I've never doubted he meets WP:NFOOTBALL - but the 'notability' tag clearly refers to GNG only. Does he currently meet GNG? No, not even nearly. Can he meet GNG? Yes, I'm happy now that you've shows sources are available. GiantSnowman08:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
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The current Welsh Premier League page for the club and Rhyl F.C.'s squad list both show that this player is no longer at the club and in the 2016/17 squad. The reality is that not every player you can find a sourced update that they have left clubs - in particular in non-league and in the WPL. That said I have added one now for this player from the club's twitter account. Zanoni (talk) 20:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi there - it's well-established that we include team categories even if a player only played at youth level. If you have been removing appropriate categories from articles then please stop. GiantSnowman12:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Please change it back to the recent corrections.
It doesn't work that way I'm afraid. Even if you are the player (and that is a claim rather than a fact) the content you removed was sourced and had references - which were included in the article. For example, I have now added an additional reference today around the player being sent off in a 22 man fight whilst at Ramsbottom to the article (also see Match Report for League match vs Buxton), and there's other evidence of Ramsbottom appaearances like Workington 4-0 Ramsbottom, League Match Report vs Hyde, League Match vs Rushall
The other clubs you removed also have details of the player registrations with references. May well be that the player concerned never played for these clubs, but again, the following Match report St Helens Town vs Northwich Manchester Villa suggest that is not the case.
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Thank you on your contributions on bringing Welsh football up to date. Back in February I noticed that a lot of teams, leagues, etc... had been neglected over the years. I'm also to blame for that as I went hiatus for a few years but in February when I saw the state of neglect I started to update stuff here and there as I've always wanted to get the Welsh football to at least the levels in England and Scotland. You are doing a good job and I hope we can work together on bringing Welsh football here to the level it should be. Many thanks, Onshore (talk) 21:36, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
No problems User:Onshore - have added a few more new articles this evening and working on a few more - see my userpage for details, so we don't crossover. Most leagues should now be up to date with at least 18-19 club lists and updating to 19-20 as the leagues confirm. I am trying to sort out pages for any club who has played in the WFL that are missing and will work on these over the next few months. Zanoni (talk) 19:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks User:Zanoni I appreciate what you have done and continue to do. I'm planning on adding seasons to all leagues. I have this book that lists all FA Cup results for every team from 1871 to 1993 (I think). I'm glad we're both on the same page. I'd like to expand one day with reserves as an example. Welsh Alliance League use to include reserves before the division split in 2010 with Division 1 and 2. Currently I'm working on via my sandbox Bangor City's 2018–19 season with stats. Something I would like to add to at least Welsh Premier League clubs in the near future. In the Draft:2019–20 Welsh Premier League I have changed stadium location into a border of grounds across the welsh map that SPL uses and Premier League Bosnia. It only works for a league with 12 teams. Thanks on that, I will look at your userpage first. Thanks :-) Onshore (talk) 22:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Question for you User:Onshore - on the [2] we have the Caernarfon & District League listed at Tier 6. Is this link now defunct? - I cannot find a league website - this suggests they were having "a year off" in 2014 [3] and this also suggests 2013-14 was the last season [4] - If so do you want to amend the pyramid? Zanoni (talk) 07:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks User:Onshore - will keep an eye out. I'd say I am surprised they are appealing but given the mess of that club at the moment, not surprised at all! Zanoni (talk) 06:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks User:Onshore - Bangor could yet be relegated to Tier 3 - the club appealed but the FAW have now charged them with an additional offence in relation to player 'A' the one they have already had the 21 point deduction for in relation to 7 games @3 points each. if they got another 3 points for this offence (as relates to a CA game) they would go down [5]Zanoni (talk) 11:00, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks on the update User:Zanoni - Looks like they have shot themselves in the foot but I'm not surprised as they have tried to challenge the FAW on every hurdle. They even challenged the FAW on the demotion from the Welsh Premier League at the end of the 2017–18 season and were taking legal action before backing down a few weeks later. I guess they will do the same this time. It's going to be interesting if they will be relegated though with the fixture lists already published. I think Bangor City should have taken the 21 point deduction on the chin and moved on. Onshore (talk) 22:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
User:Onshore - its a start, but to let you know that every existing league in the Welsh pyramid now has a page. All are up to date with at least 2018–19 clubs and will be updated with 2019-20 as they are confirmed. Many need expanding with previous winners etc but information is patchy to say the least. I am also trying to create articles for sides that have in the past played in the South Walian Welsh Football League. All articles for leagues are linked to their league website with the exception of the Gwent Central League where I cannot find one. Any ideas? Zanoni (talk) 12:42, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you User:Zanoni You've done an awesome job. Apologies that I have lacked contacted recently, personal life has contradicted my path but I'm here if it's early in the morning, which I should be well suited to as I was born 4.15 am GMT, lol! Anyways, I will be releasing my 2019–20 North Wales League seasons pages tomorrow. No time set yet but by 14:30 BST. Would you mind if I asked you to join or if already a user, head to twitter so we can have a good chat my username is @ifanwynroberts :-) Anyways, thank you User:Zanoni I know others won't respect what you've done but I here to say thank you Onshore (talk) 03:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Zanoni I have tried to look for an official site for Gwent Central League but the one they had seems to have been made redundant since 2013. They have a facebook page but the last post on that was in 2017 with a link to All Wales Sport. I can appreciate that as you go down the Welsh Football Pyramid its going to get tougher on getting the information. I find looking for regional weekly newspapers, where there seems to be a few online can be a good source of information. However, it can be tedious. Onshore (talk) 21:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
In other news, Bangor City have won their appeal in Birmingham on Friday 16 August against FAW. From Bangor City's official statement it looks like the points deduction that was imposed on them has been revoked. So am I right in thinking they finished the Cymru Alliance 4th on 51 points? Onshore (talk) 21:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed you added the South Wales FA Senior Cup to the honours section. Are we sure that these were senior sides playing rather than reserves? There's no statistical record of Cardiff's first team playing in the competition and the reserve side were competing in the Welsh Leagues at the time which would make more sense. Also, Barry Town don't include the fixtures in their archive, cheers. Kosack (talk) 12:24, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I'd imagine it was the reserves rather than the first team given it's the local FA association - but to be honest don't know - I just added from the sourced FA handbook for 2019–20. Zanoni (talk) 12:46, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Move is sourced on the top line next to Gainsborough where it shows he moved from Ashton to Gainsborough - if you want to add the appearance feel free but made an assumption that he may have played more than once so may not be accrurate Zanoni (talk) 11:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- GiantSnowman - this actually suggests he joined on dual registration terms from Guiseley - so not sure where the Ashton United move comes in? - I've had a quick search and can't seem to find anything re Ashton. Any ideas? Zanoni (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Charming as ever! - apologies I forgot to add the source to this one - although was added to all my other edits from the same source. I admit to not being perfect - a human trait. I'll add now 11:00, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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