Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of San Antonio Spurs head coaches

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The list was promoted by User:Gimmetrow 12:30, 2 July 2008 [1].

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List of San Antonio Spurs head coaches

Worked on this article in my sandbox then moved it. There aren't any pictures for the coaches becauseI could not find any images uploaded on Wikimedia. --Gman124 ^talk 16:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Gary King (talk) 20:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• Use en dashes for year ranges (in the lead—it looks like they are properly applied in the table) per WP:DASHY
• Missing a period in "season[2]"?Y

Gary King (talk) 18:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• Force a TOC with Help:TOC Done
• Otherwise, Support

Gary King (talk) 18:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

• Confusing with Dallas Chapparels mentioned first - mention Spurs first and say something along the lines of "...and former franchise incarnation..." (or similar)Y
• "of the original version of the " - reads odd to me. Why not something like "...who played in the ..."?Y
• "...in Dallas. In fact, ..." a little chatty. Drop the "In fact" and merge the sentences.Y
• Order citations numerically if possible.
  • They are ordered like that automatically. --Gman124 ^talk 13:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
    • No, you can reorder the ref names. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
      •  Done --Gman124 ^talk 15:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
• Expand, link and then place (NBA) after the first use of National Basketball Association.Y
• The lead contains virtually nothing about the head coaches (except Popovich). It needs to focus on the men, not the franchise.Y
• Surely "Loses" should be "Losses"?Y
• "Regular Season" can just be "Regular season" and the W &ndash L should lose the spaces in the table.Y
• No-one elected to the BHOF so axe it from the key.Y
• 2002-03 needs en-dash (in the coach of the year).Y
• present doesn't need to be in italics.Y

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

• I reworked the first two sentences slightly to say what the Spurs do, and to avoid repetition of the Dallas Chaparrals.
• "The team suffered from poor attendance and general disinterest in Dallas;" The team was disinterested in Dallas, or the Dallas people were disinterested in the team?Y
• "The team suffered from poor attendance and general disinterest in Dallas; therefore, during the 1970–71 season, the name "Dallas" was dropped in favor of "Texas" and an attempt was made to make the team a regional one, but this proved a failure and the team returned full-time to Dallas in time for the 1971–72 season." Very long sentence. Should be broken into twoY
• "and were coached by Gregg Popovich." No need for "and were"Y
• "were coached by Gregg Popovich.", "2007 NBA Finals under Popovich.[1] Popovich is the franchise's all-time leader", "Popovich won the NBA Coach of the Year" Too many "Popovich"s. Perhaps some could be simply "he"Y
• "and Gregg Popovich spent their entire coaching career with the Spurs." No need for his first name here.Y
• Did you try Flickr for some free-use pics?
  • I have never used that and also don't know what that is. --Gman124 ^talk 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
    • It's a web-based image repository where some contributors license their images in a way that's compatible with upload and use on Wikipedia. Have a look at flickr.com The Rambling Man (talk) 18:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 23:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

• • • • So after I find an image, do I have to upload it to wikipedia? and what license would that be? --Gman124 ^talk 18:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be the same licence the picture has at Flickr. See Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• I looked at Flickr and can't find any free images. --Gman124 ^talk 18:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  • • • • • •  Done --Gman124 ^talk 00:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• All the refs links at the end of the lead look a bit odd, could they be placed anywhere else?
  • They are for the last sentence, so I don't know where you would want me to move those. --Gman124 (talk) 23:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
• Couldn't the years in the "Term" column be linked?
  • Do you mean like link to the season pages, because all season pages for Spurs don't exist yet, I will once they do. --Gman124 (talk) 23:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
    •  Done Gman124 ^talk 18:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
• "San Antonio Spurs National Basketball Association" is there a word missing here?Y
• No image.
  • as far as I know, there isn't any free images for use on Wikimedia projects. --Gman124 (talk) 23:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
    •  Done --Gman124 ^talk 00:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Buc (talk) 07:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose
  • Basketball-reference is your only source. You need at least one more general reference. We can't rely on just one reference.Y
    • That nba page is one loooong page, can't you find another shorter source?--Crzycheetah 22:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
  • What do the refs in the "references" column give to this list? All the info in the table is provided by the general reference, so why are there individual references from the same website? At least provide refs from a different website.
    • added one ref for Larry Brown and one for Popovich --Gman124 ^talk 22:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
      • Why did you add more? I was actually saying to remove the older ones because they don't give more info than the general reference.--Crzycheetah 22:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
        •  Done --Gman124 ^talk 14:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Ref#13 should be note [a].Y

--Crzycheetah 17:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

• • I think the term years should be pipe-linked to the seasons because some people believe that 1996, for instance, is the 1995-96 season while in reality, it is the 1996-97 season. The links are needed to avoid this confusion.--Crzycheetah 07:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
    •  Done added links to terms. --Gman124 ^talk 16:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
      • Support--Crzycheetah 03:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • You should find a picture somewhere to put up on the list.
    •  Done Gman124 ^talk 00:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "The franchise won their first NBA championship as the in the 1999 NBA Finals coached by Gregg Popovich." should be "The franchise won their first NBA championship in the 1999 NBA Finals while being coached by Gregg Popovich."Y
  • In the sentence, "He is the franchise's all-time leader in both regular season and playoff games coached and wins.", I think "He" should be "Popovich".Y
  • You should link "2002–03 season".Y
  • In the sentence, " Larry Brown is the only member of the franchise that has been inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame as coach.", the last words should be "as a coach."Y
  • In the sentence, "Cliff Hagan, Max Williams, Bill Blakely, Dave Brown, Morris McHone, Jerry Tarkanian and Popovich spent their entire coaching career with the Spurs.", the last words should be "spent their entire coaching careers with the Spurs."Y
  • "Games Coached" should be "Games coached".Y
  • If all is finished, I'll support.Y

Annoyomous24 (talk) 23:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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