Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/The Living End discography/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Scorpion⁰⁴²² 18:00, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Living End discography

I believe this list holds a lengthy and accurate coverage of The Living End's discography, and adheres with Wikipedia's rules for FLC nomination. If you do deny, please provide some points to improve the list. kiac (talk) 12:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose, based on prose~~ Comments

Resolved comments from Gary King (talk) 17:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The discography of The Living End, an Australian rock group formed in Melbourne, Australia in 1992 by lead vocalist Chris Cheney and bassist Scott Owen, with drummer Andy Strachan joining the group later." – there's no verb

Edited to adhere with featured Powderfinger discography. Easiest way to do it i thought.

"1996, it was" – disjointed? Happens a few times.

Done I think. Please check and get back to me. Broke up a few sentences, reads a bit better.

"gone onto receive" – "gone on to receive"

Done

"With only minor singles "Rising Sun" and "Til the End" released in 2007, the Triple J Hottest 100, 2007 was the first time since before "From Here on In" in 1997, that The Living End did not feature on the list." – confusing sentence

Done Please review and get back to me.

Remove the periods from the notes that are not actually full sentences (some are missing verbs)

Done

Let me know my talk page when these are done. Gary King (talk) 18:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replies; kiac (talk) 08:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Videos → Video albums

Done

Why are there missing video directors?

Not available anywhere i am able to find, looked long and hard. I have seen other FLs without all, it seems un-important. Especially considering the next point.

MVDBase.com isn't considered a reliable source

Another issue i am unable to solve. There's no other reference, do i remove the director from the list (when it seems they are all factual) or what?

Have any of their music videos been released on a DVD and/or enhanced CD single? The liner notes usually contain director information -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are over 90 articles on wikipedia that use mvdbase.com as a reference, mostly discography articles. In particular, List of U2 awards, Red Hot Chili Peppers discography, Powderfinger discography, Hilary Duff discography, Metallica discography, Soundgarden discography, Delta Goodrem discography and Paul Kelly discography all of which are FL class. I therefore don't see the problem in using it as a reference.

So i'll take that comment as more notable/reliable than the previous one which had no evidence or proof, re-adding MVD base.

Incorporate "—" into the table

Do you mean the director table?

Sorry for not being clear. I meant the albums and singles tables. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why are the certifications in such a small font?

Done Looked fine in my resolution, didn't notice.

Listing the singles in the albums section and then in their own section is redundant

Done I meant to remove this, just copying how some other featureds had it.

Maybe add catalog numbers for the albums and video albums?

Do you know where i can get these? I have looked, but can't find.

I have found them at websites such as Eil.com and Discogs.com. These sites are good for basic release information such as catalog numbers, release formats, etc. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- Underneath-it-All (talk) 03:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replies; kiac (talk) 08:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Dan Arndt (talk) 04:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
replace the header in the various columns 'Charts' with 'Chart peak positions'

Done

rather than 'denotes albums/singles that did not chart' replace with 'denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that country' - unless you are able to confirm that all the releases by The Living End were also made in the US.

Done Meant to do that, ran out of time.

in the footnotes you state that "Prisoner of Society" charted in both the US and the UK but you haven't provided any references in evidence of this.

Done Good pickup, that's a mistake, i deleted the UK charting that used to be in the table because it was innaccurate.

similarly in respect to "Trapped" you need references to this effect.

Done

in the list of music videos I would suggest that you place a footnote 'Directors name for these music videos has not been found in reliable sources' against those where you have blanks

Done Still need to find refs for MVD replacement too, damn.

see my earlier comments regarding MVDBase.com Dan arndt (talk) 01:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

external links - could include references to Allmusic, Discogs, MusicBrainz etc (refer Paul Kelly discography)

Done

Replies; kiac (talk) 06:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose mainly by the poor layout, I suggest that you take a look in The Mars Volta discography for some ideas. This list is also a lack of references to music videos section, and several redundancies. Canniba loki 23:26, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose? I don't see grounds for that, but your opinion is yours. Fixed the layout, made it look as close as i could to the Mars Volta discog. Working on the Music Videos! No one happens to own this From Here on In: The DVD 1997-2004 do they? Where are these redundancies? kiac (talk) 10:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've never reviewed a Featurd list before, i've gone around a checked other Featured Lists and i see a number of problems, you can fix these problems by checking how other Featurd Lists look like, i think. --Russian Airplay (talk) 13:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

The following are suggestions only:

Could you use Discography The Living End for all Australian charting singles and albums? A similar Discography The Living End is possible for NZ charting singles and albums.

If mvd.base is allowed (see discussions above) why not use Artist search "The Living End"? Or doesn't it cover all the mvd.base refs in your list?

I have no opposition if you don't use these, I just think they're more efficient.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done the discography ones, good suggestion. I'll leave the mvdbase ones for now because i'm not entirely sure where they stand. kiac (talk) 10:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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