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Nominated Image For Deletion

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I just nominated a possible copyvio image on Commons for deletion. I think that the image would fall under fair use still here on Wikipedia. Should I go ahead and download it from Commons, scale it down and reupload it here?

I'm not terribly familiar with the rules here for images as most of the time when I work with images I try to confine it to Commons. (Article in question is LCD projector and the image is File:VP-700.jpg) Zell Faze (talk) 00:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. It is too common an object for no free pictures to exist. I don't think we can upload if free licence images are easily available. We can with dead people and buildings that are demolished but not electronic devices. If they are still in use you could find one and take a picture of it. If you find one on Ebay you may be able to contact the seller to get an image.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
http://press.epson.jp/img/ep/21_vpj-700_l.jpg Epson, the manufacturer, is probably the copyright holder. You may be able to email them for images of all of their products. They may just say yes to have their articles look better than the competition. Then the competition will clue in and send images as well. This should be a good thing.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:12, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

malicious website in link?

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In Henry Dudeney I clicked on the first link in references, supposedly an ebook of his "536 problems...". Malwarebytes says that it blocked a potentially malicious website. Is this website really malicious? If so, the link should be removed. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:49, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me. RudolfRed (talk) 03:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I scanned the link with Sucuri but it came back clean. Link. Maybe a bad advert or a false positive? I'm using MalwareBytes too and i've got nothing. By all accounts it appears to be clean. May want to scan your own computer just to be safe. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 18:26, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I run a quick scan every night and a full scan once a week. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 17:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

changing font

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the default font i am getting when i view wikipaedia on my google chrome browser is very unreadable. can i change the font to something easier to read? if so, please tell me how?

jain mathew dept of english st peter's college kolenchery india 682311 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.241.49.163 (talk) 05:24, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I presume you mean the font is too small. If that is the case, pressing Ctrl+0 should return the font to he "default" size. If that is not satisfactory, Ctrl++ and Ctrl+- increase and decrease the font size. Astronaut (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean the font face then Wikipedia doesn't set it. It uses the default sans-serif font in your browser, often Arial if the browser setting hasn't been changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hasbrouck House (Poughkeepsie, New York)

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The coordinates for this site are wrong and place a Wikipedia symbol near Garrison, NY, between Dick's Castle Road and State Rt 9D, across the Hudson River from West Point, and not in the town of Poughkeepsie, NY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgejmyersjr (talkcontribs) 05:42, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hasbrouck House (Poughkeepsie, New York) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I found that National Register of Historic Places listings in Poughkeepsie, New York listed the house with different coordinates, so I've copied those into the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:45, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Not sure whether this is the right place. Just wanted to mention that part of the Yamato Transport article is identical to [1]. bamse (talk) 07:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've confirmed that the text was on the external website before it arrived at Wikipedia, so I have removed as a copyright violation. In theory, the right place to report this would be Wikipedia:Copyright problems, but the page is so backlogged that it doesn't even format correctly. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent table tranclusion and newline management

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I'm getting some inconsistent behavior regarding the management of newlines when transcluding a template that starts with a table. Basically, template {{Test1}} is nothing more than a table, and template {{Test2}} is nothing more than "{{:User:Happypal/Test1}}". However, they don't render the same if they are precedded by a newline.

For example:

Template :User:Happypal/Test1 :User:Happypal/Test2
Page Content
{| class="wikitable"
| test
|}
{{:User:Happypal/Test1}}
usage Raw Table Transclude once Transclude twice
Raw Code
aaa

{| class="wikitable"
| test
|}
aaa

{{:User:Happypal/Test1}}
aaa

{{:User:Happypal/Test2}}
Result aaa
test
aaa
test
aaa


test

As you can see, the "Test2" case generates an extra paragraph, when the resulting transcluded wiki code should be strictly equivalent :/ Is this the expected behavior, or a mediawiki bug/limitation/feature? I'm not sure myself if or if not there should be a linefeed there, but the fact that it is inconsistent is... odd. Any explanation on this?

Is there a way to prevent that line feed, while keeping the code as-is? "Test2" is supposed to represent a navbox. Test2 is currently implemented as a raw table, but I'm changing it to use a standardized template, but its inserting a blank line. Help? I'll admit it's not for wikipedia, so feel free to ignore this particular question, I'll already be happy with an explanation of the behavior...

Kind regards, happypal (Talk | contribs) 14:01, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting an image

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I just split the image File:Engine.jpg by moving both versions to the commons, but I think I screwed up. Can somebody fix whatever I did wrong, and tell me how to do it right? I don't split images that often. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 16:01, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure File:Non-specific Caterpillar Diesel Engine.jpg is actually free enough to go to commons my senses tell me it looks like it is copied straight from the caterpillar website, it has the same style and presentation as others "official" images. It was uploaded as part of a student project according to the users talk. MilborneOne (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Split went OK but I have nominated the two commons images for deletion and raised the local version to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2013 May 19. MilborneOne (talk) 17:06, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And I've just replied to all three nominations. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citing an Interview

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Hello:

I am looking for a way to cite a personal interview. I am a school librarian working with students to update our school's wikipedia page. Some of the students interviewed coaches, older teachers and the town historian for information. How do the students properly cite this information?

Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcadorette (talkcontribs) 17:17, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer is that you can't. See Wikipedia:No original research. The interviews aren't published, and as such cannot be used. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way a local newspaper could publish this information? If they did, then Wikipedia could use it.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:45, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Simple merge closure

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Hi, there is agreement here that we can ask for an uninvolved editor (not necessarily an admin) to simply close the two merge proposals. It is a simple decision, so if someone here can help with closure it be appreciated. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Balikpapan Battle WWII,1945; Added to Navy Atack Groupo 78.2 TRANSPORTS; 19 LCT.

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SEE Papers of Lieutenant JG Robert H Mugalian 1944-1945. In the Opertional Archives, Naval Historical Center, Washington DC 20374-5060. Robert Mugalian (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to clean up the formatting of your question, but what you're asking is still not clear to me. Is there an error in a Wikipedia article? RudolfRed (talk) 00:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is with reference to this edit. Not knowing what was intended I removed <ref><ref></ref></ref>. —teb728 t c 02:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]