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Dear chao xian de lun zi, this is the second time I see you here asking about the succesrate of bad faith contributions. We do not give this type of information. Secondly, the only type of contribution you seem to do on Wikipedia is ask questions on differing unrelated topics. Please don't. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 06:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You question has too many variables -- mean, bad, look bad, high, chance of success, success -- to provide you any meaningful reply other than to say it depends. -- -- Jreferee (talk) 06:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It should depend, but I can know better if there is any examples of this. Maybe I was mistaken to assume that is common and might have happened in enwp, or maybe this kind of "that was not me "complaints are so common that most of them are just ignored.--chao xian de lun zi (talk) 09:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@朝鲜的轮子: If you are here, on Wikipedia, to improve Wikipedia as an encyclopedia, you're welcome to help, by editing articles or doing other similar things. On the other hand, if all you are interested in is to learn more about how checkuser and sockpuppet investigations work, that is not helpful to Wikipedia, and - if that is all that you want to learn - then I strongly recommend that you go elsewhere. -- John Broughton(♫♫)22:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why is that not helpful? At least I know better about what could I , or others do in such circumstances. And if some contributive editors can get rid of wrong sanctions, that is definitely helpful to wikipedia.--chao xian de lun zi (talk) 01:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I did considered the beans issue that this might give some mean guy ideas, but since this might have already happened on Chinese WP, and it might have also happened on English WP(I am becoming doubtful after no one directly gives such example) I think it is better to discuss a little bit. It seems okay to leave the methods alone so that people don't exploit. I think some previous cases which have been resolved for long should not do that much harm, is it?--chao xian de lun zi (talk) 08:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Chao - The Red Pen noted above that people accused of using a sockpuppet and complaining "that was not me" happens all the time on English WP, so much so that English WP has a shortcut WP:BROTHER. Why did you then write "Maybe I was mistaken to assume that is common." You then write "I am becoming doubtful after no one directly gives such example." Going around asking questions on differing unrelated topics without providing enough context for others to understand the basis for your question, trying to turn the discussion to focus on you (I was mistaken, I am becoming doubtful), and trying to put yourself into a superior position of expecting other to prove something to you related to sockpuppet raises red flags that you are here for reasons other than improving Wikipedia as an encyclopedia, particularly when you add in a posted child-like view of Wikipedia where there are "mean guys" performing "bad" acts. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd take that that kind of "that was not me" complaints happens often but was seldomly seriously concerned (which is the case I was curious about, but not discussed in previous posts). Why it matters? Because someone can get wrong bans and not able to contribute wikipedia. As I saw in the case in Chinese WP, that user's ban timer was increased from 1 month to 1 year for a suspected sockpuppet which he did not acknowledge, though after 4 months he was unbanned for other reasons. I am not sure if this happens in wikipedia, but Wikipedia:Ban#Reset of ban following evasion says the ban timer can be reset or increased if a banned editor attempts to edit in spite of the ban. At last, I might have not stated the question very clearly, but there should be better ways to talk rather than picking on my motives and going down Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement.--chao xian de lun zi (talk) 15:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have created this, and titled it "স্বজন কি?". Is that what you mean? As this is English Wikipedia, it only accepts articles in English, and will certainly not accept that article. Maproom (talk) 07:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have created a page called Electric Mobility Norway, but I can't seem to get it submitted.
I don't know what I am doing wrong.
Can someone please help me?
The OP can find the big green button all right. He had already clicked it five times; since your response he has clicked it three more times. But the article itself is still not acceptable. Maproom (talk) 15:44, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
He'd clicked the button 8 times in all, as you said, & each time it had put {{subst:submit}} into the draft, but the substitution hadn't taken effect because of an unterminated ref tag, so of course he wasn't seeing the box acknowledging successful submission at the foot of the draft. It was only after the unterminated ref was deleted that all the submission requests took effect. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:02, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is the English Wikipedia, so questions in Hindi/Urdu are unlikely to get answered. Furthermore, this is a page for asking questions about editing Wikipedia, and I suspect that your question does not come into that classification. --ColinFine (talk) 11:44, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Are telephone numbers appropriate content for articles of organizations?
Your edits have been reverted. You are removing content from the article and not explaining why. The article is about the church but also about the historic building that was the original home of the congregation. Please use the article's talk page to explain why you are removing the content. GBfan15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically, the article is not about the congregation, but about the structure: the former is just another non-notable Baptist congregation, like my own Bethel Baptist back home, but the latter is a notable historic structure on the National Register of Historic Places. Your edits are trying to change that, and are properly being reverted by other editors. --Orange Mike | Talk16:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
.Subject matter expert keith smart says law over curry and lin sucks dinohealth
To the editors: Illegal use and reference to my property "dinohealth", spelled one word, by someone that is attempting to maliciously defame, utilizing an out-of-context statement, and connecting same to "dinohealth" in creating this tile. I would appreciate the deletion of this tittle, and, would like to know who created it. Thank you. Dinohealth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.6.64.117 (talk) 16:48, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is no fixed length. There are several considerations. Generally the quotation should not be a substantial part of the whole work. It should not be long enough to serve as a replacement for the work, thereby impairing any possible commercial value of the original. It should be no longer than is needed to make the relevant point in the article, assisting readers to understand what a source or participant has said, or the position taken by the author of the quote. It should not be a sizable part of the article either, the shorter the article the shorter the longest quote it could support. All of these are judgement calls. Editing a quote to shorten it in a way that distorts it or makes good prose seem choppy or unclear is no service to anyone. Of course I am assuming that all quotes are properly sourced and attributed. Usually one or a few sentences will do, but everything depends on the specific quote and the purpose of using that quote in a particular article. DES(talk)18:32, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever the length allowed for government copyright fair use of text is, Wikipedia places further limits on that via WP:NFCC. Before adding non-free content requiring a rationale, ask yourself: "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" and "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all?" If the answer to either is yes, the length of the non-free content probably does not meet NFCC criteria. -- Jreferee (talk) 03:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All quotes are sourced from books, and used in relatively long articles. So the WikiQuote 250 words limit (mentioned here) is not a problem. all quotes are properly sourced and attributed. The long quotes are located in the footnotes, formatted as list-defined references, which are recommended to use in order to avoid clutterin The "readable prose". I admit that my footnotes has long quotes (could be around 200 words ) in order to enable the interested reader to learn more of the subject. Usually it is not one block of text but rather a collection of short quotes (e.g. 2 sentences each) sourced from different places in the page, or other pages, or books. The Arab Israeli conflict articles editors are rather suspicious, so having the footnotes quotes, is probably saving some disputes.
As for the question "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all?", in my opinion the reply is positive for an overwhelming majority of the articles, but people are still using quotes. I would like to use quotes as well but I am worried about the length of the copyrighted text. I will try to keep it short of the WikiQuotes 250 words limit. Thank you DESiegel, Jreferee, for your elaborated replies. Ykantor (talk) 19:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can I please get some help from admins? (New user, edit warring)
A user/admin here named User:STATicVapor has continued to edit war for over a week now, being the sole person who has objected against my recent contributions. I cannot seem to make peace no matter how hard I try, and this user keeps leaving out facts and references, while blatantly tagging pages and continually reverting my edits in general. The way he has been following my edits specifically around over the last few weeks (on various articles, see all of my contributions) makes me believe that his (or her) edits are in bad faith and are personal attacks against me. I was just trying to add musical facts and it seems like I am being attacked by the same person. Thanks Ben0kto (talk) 19:31, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Marking an article you created for deletion is not edit warring. Stop forum shopping because you are upset. I have never acted in bad faith or made any personal attack against you. STATicmessage me!19:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have continued to edit war over the exact same subject for at least a week now by REVERTING my edits. You are the only person out of the 350+ views who has objected to the article. You are the only one marking it for deletion as well. I do not know what forum shopping is, but you are edit warring. Ben0kto (talk) 19:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot even state what article I have supposedly "edit warred" on, because I have not, and you do not want to catch yourself in a lie. You on the other hand were one revert away from breaching WP:3RR on my talk page, and being blocked again. STATicmessage me!20:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cannot, or choose not? You know, as well as the admins, which subject you continue to edit war on. Show me where I have lied or provided a false statement. I'll show you where you have told a lie. You said the allmusic link referring to Lil Yo and the Frayser Click/DJ Sound on the Yo Gotti talk page was "obviously" "related" to a different person (besides the artist, works, and subject you continue to edit war over). Who is that? Ben0kto (talk) 21:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ben0kto: Your failure to identify the article at which you claim that StaticVapor was edit-warring was tendentious and unhelpful. If you come to the Help Desk, that should be because you want help, and then you should help us help you. It appears that the issue was at DJ Sound. It also appears that you were also edit-warring. It takes two (or more) to edit-war. If you will now seek a third opinion or other dispute resolution, good. In any case, don't waste our time by providing incomplete information and expecting us to read your edit history when you know what the issue is. As Karenjc cautions, watch for the boomerang effect when providing a one-sided report of a dispute. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ben0kto: Also, I would suggest moving your draft article from your user page, where it could be mistaken for a WP:FAKEARTICLE although it really is a draft article, to a user subpage or the Articles for Creation. That is just a suggestion, because some of us want to help you if you will let us help you. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is the help desk, for asking questions about how to use and find your way around Wikipedia. The edit warring noticeboard is that way. But before you consider making a report there, please ensure you understand exactly what an edit war is, and familiarise yourself with WP:Boomerang. It would be much better to try to reach a civil consensus. Rmhermen's suggestion of Third Opinion is one possible way forward, - Karenjc(talk)21:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This recent change has made me really sad - for a while up until recently, .SVG files were able to be downloaded alternatively as a .PNG file in four sizes - 100px, 200px, 1000px, and 2000px, if I remember correctly. Sadly, this feature appears to be existing no more, and as a digital graphic artist who used logos for making my wallpapers, and is not in possession of a program that is able to work with .SVGs (I use Paint.NET), I really wish it would come back. Also, this is my first question, so pardon me for any mistakes or anything. Thank you. NASCARFAN160 (talk) 20:05, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not aware that anything has changed. If you click on an image in Wikipedia, you can get to the original version of it that was uploaded. This may be in English Wikipedia, or may be in Wikimedia Commons. And it may be a .PNG, a .SVG, or a .JPG – whatever it was that its contributor uploaded. The images that you normally see in articles have generally been made smaller and converted to a .PNG by some magic. Maproom (talk) 20:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hm...I mean, well...take this for example. Originally, the different .PNG sizes (100px, 200px, etc.) were under the text "TampaBayLightningAlternate.svg (SVG file, nominally 190 × 216 pixels, file size: 100 KB)", and clicking one one of those four would take me to a version of that image with the respective size. All uploaded .SVG files to Wikipedia were available to download in those four .PNG versions. It was there before and now I can't find it. Again, to be clear, this was solely for .SVG vectors, obviously since they are infinitely scalable. NASCARFAN160 (talk) 20:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And here is a version of it a different .SVG image, unrestricted by copyright as a 100-pixel .PNG. You can invoke the same magic in the same way, perhaps on your own user page.Maproom (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Maproom:Sorry, I've had to change your post to remove the image. Fair use images cannot be displayed anywhere but in the place where it is claimed its display is fair use without violating copyright. If you want to provide an example you can use a free image from Commons,--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see what you're doing, but how do I get a direct link to the 2000px .PNG? The four images have links that just lead me to the page for the .SVG file again. I'm sorry if I'm being frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NASCARFAN160 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have edited this page, so you can see how I have edited, including how I have placed an image here. You can do the same (though preferably not here), to cause Wikipedia to put a .PNG version of an .SVG on a page, at the size you prefer. Then you can grab the resulting .PNG (by right-clicking on it, in some browsers), and download it for your own purposes. There isn't a "direct link to the 2000px .PNG", but there is a way to cause Wikipedia to generate a 2000px .PNG (which will have the extension .svg.png). Maybe we should continue this conversation on your talk page. Maproom (talk) 20:52, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like the "rendered as PNG" options have disappeared from the SVG images - at least when seen in Internet Explorer and Chrome. The OP is asking why has the option to render the SVG as a PNG been removed. Perhaps one for the guys over at Village pump (Technical) - I asked... here. To help the OP, there are several image editing packages that can edit SVG files. I've used Inkscape with some success. Astronaut (talk) 21:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Updating content found on Wikipedia for CDI Corporation
I am an employee of CDI Corporation, and I would like to request some help in making minor changes to the above article. There are data and leadership name changes as well as a few corrections to the sidebar as follows:
I attempted to make the necessary changes, which are factual and supported by references, but the changes were undone since, I believe, I am an employee of the company and viewed as too close a source.
The history of CDI Corporation since it was founded in 1950 has been updated to address factual inaccuracies as well as facts about the company since the Wikipedia page for CDI Corp was last updated. I would welcome guidance in submitting the new content before I do, and find our page completely unsupported because I didn’t understand your submission policy.
Thank you in advance for your assistance,
Kim Smith
Sr Digital Communications Specialist
CDI Corporation
long screed of promotional content
The changes are as follows:
SIDEBAR CONTENT
CDI Corporation
Type
Public
Traded as
NYSE: CDI
Industry Engineering, Staffing, Technology
Founded 1950
Chairman Walter R. Garrison, Chairman of the Board
Headquarters Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Executive Team Paulett Eberhart, CEO, President and Director;
Robert Larney, CFO, Executive Vice President;
Stuart Batchelor, Executive Vice President, Global Staffing Services;
Philip Clark, Executive Vice President, Executive Vice President, Global Business Development & Operations;
Bill Wasilewski, Executive Vice President, Global Engineering and Technology Solutions;
Peggy Besand, Senior Vice President, Human Resources and Communications;
Brian D. Short, Chief Administrative Officer, Senior Vice President and General Counsel;
Dirk Dent, Enterprise Client Executive for Strategic Clients
Revenue $ 1.105 billion (FY 2012)[1]
Operating income
$ 32.266 million (FY 2012)[1]
Net income
$ 19.443 million (FY 2012)[1]
Total assets
$ 400.705 million (FY 2012)[1]
Total equity
$ 278.971 million (FY 2012)[1]
Employees Approximately 10,000 (December, 2012)[1]
Website www.cdicorp.com
To the body copy:
CDI Corporation
For more than 60 years CDI Corporation has delivered engineering and technology solutions
and recruitment and staffing services to Fortune 1000 clients with operations in markets
around the world. Some of the growing industries served by CDI include Oil, Gas & Chemicals;
Aerospace & Industrial Equipment; and Hi-Tech. CDI has operations in North America, the
UK and Australia, and approximately 10,000 employees.
Contents
• 1 History
o 1.1 Origination
o 1.2 New Ownership
o 1.3 1970s
o 1.4 1980s and 1990s
o 21st Century
o Today
• 2 Offerings
o 2.1 Engineering Services
o 2.2 Staffing Services
o 2.3 Technology Solutions
o 2.3 Management Recruiters International
o 2.4 AndersElite
• 3 References
• 4 External links
History
Origination
CDI Corporation was founded in 1950 to address the need of American businesses for large numbers of skilled engineers in order to maintain technologically competitive. The company offered an alternative way to staff specific projects without incurring the overhead associated with direct employees. Originally known as Comprehensive Designers, Inc., CDI hired additional engineers for client companies on a temporary basis with reduced benefits. CDI was among the first to offer temporary technical resources to manufacturing companies.
New Ownership
In 1956, Comprehensive Designers, Inc. hired a 30-year-old engineer from Boeing Airplane Company named Walter R. Garrison. In two years, he rose from chief engineer to vice president and director. By 1961, Garrison and his family owned 45% of the company. He and two colleagues bought the remainder of CDI’s shares of stock and began to grow the company. Seeing opportunity as post-war industrialization surged, the trio took the company public and began a decade-long marketing push in the aerospace industry while acquiring several companies to expand its portfolio to include infrastructure, automotive and high tech. Assignments won in 1969 for the U.S. Navy established CDI as a defense industry resource.
1970s
In the 1970s, CDI continued its expansion and rise as a national leader in providing engineering services. In 1971, the acquisition of Stubbs, Overbeck and Associates, Inc. established CDI’s presence in the oil, gas and chemical industry. Next, CDI established in-house engineering facilities where outsourced projects could be completed from start to finish. In many instances, this philosophy was more productive and cost efficient than sending workers to client locations where they have little familiarity with the project and have to start from scratch. This business model continued to expand to the point where close to 40% of CDI’s work was performed from within.
In 1972, CDI acquired the recruiting firm, Management Recruiters International. MRI grew quickly and established franchise offices across the country.
In 1973, the company’s name was officially changed to CDI Corporation. Soon after, CDI became involved with projects in the design of nuclear and fossil fuel electrical generating equipment, as well as a floating offshore nuclear power generating facility.
1980s and 1990s
Global competition was on the rise as CDI entered its fourth decade. With it came urgency in the marketplace to bring new products to market faster. The automotive industry became CDI’s largest market as the company combined its engineering and design expertise with the assembly line capabilities of partner company, ASC Incorporated. The duo developed specialty vehicles with production volumes of almost 40,000 per year. In 1982, a feature article in “Forbes” magazine described CDI as the “Kelly Boys” of the engineering marketplace, focusing on the company’s pioneering approach to outplacement services. CDI’s annual revenue climbed towards the $1 billion mark and the company was listed on the New York Stock Exchange in 1988.
Throughout the 90s, CDI invested in its staffing services with the acquisitions of Today’s Temporary, and eventually in London-based AndersElite. CDI’s Management Recruiters business added outplacement to its portfolio of recruiting services. These new offerings were branded InterExec―placing executive and middle-management talent on a contract basis. Next were the introductions of DayStar, a new service offering flexible support staff solutions; SalesStaffers for companies expanding into new markets; and a new approach to outplacement, especially for the laid-off workforce, called Career Pathways.
CDI expanded other components of its business and began partnering with its clients to provide functions that complemented its traditional services, like establishing and managing entire departments. The company further expanded its capabilities and presence in the oil and gas industry, and capitalized on growing demand for computer and technology expertise.
CEO, Walter Garrison, retired in 1997 and was succeeded as CEO by Mitch Wineick. After implementing a series of new business strategies, existing multi-million dollar contracts were renewed, internet-based recruiting began via a partnership with Monster.com, and new offices opened in Mexico, Scotland, and Ireland.
21st Century
With the millennium came new opportunity. Competition in the marketplace for skilled labor intensified and CDI responded with CDI University -- 24x7 online training, skills development, performance support and professional development designed to deliver highly qualified talent for clients.
In 2001, Roger Ballou was named the company’s new CEO and President. During his tenure, European aircraft manufacturer, Airbus, signed a multi-million dollar contract with CDI to design landing gear for the new Airbus A380 aircraft.
In 2010, CDI acquired professional infrastructure service provider, L.R. Kimball Company. The company also developed large-scale oil and gas plants in the U.S. opening the door to similar work in China. CDI also designed and constructed one of the largest polysilicon manufacturing facilities in the U.S.
Today
In 2011, Paulette Eberhart was named President and CEO (or is it CEO and President?) and launched a new strategy for growth.
Offerings
Engineering Services
Provides a full range of core engineering design services and business solutions for the Oil, Gas & Chemical, Aerospace & Industrial Equipment, Infrastructure, and Government Services industries. CDI offers solutions that allow clients to manage their workload by project or by function.
Staffing Services
CDI provides a full range of contingent workforce management solutions to enable a more flexible, agile workforce and increase clients’ competitive advantage.
Technology Solutions
CDI provides a defined set of information technology solutions to optimize clients’ IT operations, reduce overall IT costs, improve service levels and free up capital for strategic investment.
MRINetwork®
MRINetwork, a subsidiary of CDI Corporation, is one of the largest recruitment
organizations in the world, with a network of 2,500 recruiters and 600
independently owned franchise offices that provide a full range of staffing
options, ranging from retained or contingency search, to contract staffing and
recruitment process outsourcing solutions.
AndersElite
AndersElite is CDI’s professional services staffing business in the UK, providing
permanent, temporary and contract recruitment services for a wide variety of
clients across many industries.
References
1. ^ "CDI Corp, Form 10-K, Annual Report, Filing Date Mar 1, 2013". secdatabase.com. Retrieved October 15, 2013.
2. ^ "Kelly Boys" Forbes Magazine October 25, 1982, p 114
External links
• Official website
• CDI Corp SEC Filings
• MRINetwork http://www.mrinetwork.com/
• AndersElite http://www.anderselite.com
