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November 8

Tim Stevens (footballer)

I have a JPG picture (which I own) that I was planning to insert in the subject article but I am having difficulty in understanding how to do it. I have a log in.222.153.72.95 (talk) 03:11, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Did you take that picture yourself? --Orange Mike | Talk 03:46, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes. I uploaded it quite some time ago. The name of the jpg222.153.72.95 (talk) 04:04, 8 November 2014 (UTC) is Tim Stevens footballer. I am having difficulty in understanding how I insert it into the article222.153.72.95 (talk) 04:04, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

I have added it for you. The usual [[File:....]] markup isn't often needed inside these "infoboxes" - see Help:Infobox picture. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:33, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks222.153.72.95 (talk) 20:10, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

how to use Wikipedia wizard to upload a company profile page, how to be a confirmed account and how to edit

Dear Wiki,

I am very confused on how to use Wikipedia wizard to upload a company profile page, how to be a confirmed account and how to edit. Could you please advise me on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creon lim (talk • contribs) 07:59, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

There are some websites that have "confirmed accounts" where a user can confirm that he represents a company; so that he can have privileged access to the page about the company. Wikipedia takes the opposite point of view: On Wikipedia an account is not allowed to represent a company. If a username indicates the account represents a company, the account is apt to be blocked. And an individual is strongly discouraged from writing about his/her company. Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. So the advice is, "Don't do it." —teb728 t c 08:36, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

@Creon lim: I'm not sure what you mean but Wikipedia does have something called autoconfirmed users and confirmed users. It's required to upload images here at Wikipedia but not to edit or write articles, and not to upload images at commons:. At Wikipedia:Articles for creation it is possible to submit an article for review but most articles about the author's own company are declined. The article should be written neutrally and have reliable independent sources to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Most submissions are poorly sourced and too promotional. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:41, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

We also have the WP:OTRS system which can be used of "verify identities" for certain purposes - such as to verify that you are the holder of a copyright work and wish to donate it under appropriate free use license. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:16, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

@Creon lim: The rule of thumb here is, if your company is notable, someone (else) will write about it. Mlpearc (open channel) 16:40, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Navigation, rules, help and deleted article

Hi, I'm very new on Wikipedia. Yesterday I tried to present facts of a living artist from Sweden... Some bio, members of the band and discography. I used Jerry Williams as a template. I am a reliable source, since I am the artist myself and also the label. My goal was not to promote the artist. I just wanted to write down some facts, since the artist is known not only in Sweden, but also in other countries. I have no idea about the level of how famous the artist is worldwide, or how famous the artist must, or ought, to be to qualify into Wikipedia. The article, Andy Greyburn, is now deleted and I'm truly sorry for anything not proper I'v been writing. If someone would like to help me writing this article, if it's relevant enough, I would be very grateful. I find it hard to understand and navigate on Wikipedia, so maybe I shouldn't even be here at all. I'm not sure at this point that I'm even writing in the right or proper forum. So if anyone is reading this, please help me out herePuhls (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

You are not a reliable source for information about yourself or your band. A reliable source is normally independently published. There are special circumstances in which an organization can be a reliable source about itself, but they are special circumstances and probably do not apply here. Also, if you write about yourself or your band, you have conflict of interest. Most articles written by editors who are directly involved with the subject contain puffery and are excessively promotional. What has been written in independent publications, such as newspapers or music magazines? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:01, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Article for creation

Hello, if I was to create an article on Khaled Sharrouf it does not seem possible as after searching it says the article is already created (but it is a redirection to a section in an article - only). So I have two questions : A) how do you find the redirect page, when the work is done to modify the redirect page? B) And the second question is how do I go around creating a page that says it does already exist? Thank you for your help. — Ludopedia^(Talk) 16:51, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

you would need to establish that sources found Sharrouf notable outside of 2014 ISIL beheading incidents which seems unlikely. See WP:BLP1E. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:00, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

technically, when you click on Khaled Sharrouf it sends you to 2014 ISIL beheading incidents . Scroll up to the top and you will see a blue link saying you have been redirected from Khaled Sharrouf. clicking back on that link will get you to the specific page with appropriate tabs such as "edit this page" -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:03, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

(e/c) Hey Ludopedia. When you are redirected you will always see at the top of the resulting page (Redirected from NAME) just below the title of the page. If you then click on the link, you can access the redirect itself. For more, please see Wikipedia:Redirect. So here, once you access the redirect, which is already "created" which is why it says it already exists, to make an article on this subject just replace the redirect code with content about the person. However, please be aware of WP:PERPETRATOR. Consider whether we should have a separate article at all. Also, be aware that a topic like this requires impeccable sourcing through inline citations to reliable sources. Please read our policy on articles about living persons, note the section of that page under the shortcut WP:BLP1E, and be aware that our concern abut protecting living persons is applicable to family members/friends of deceased victims.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:11, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh this is great. Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate. Have a great day  ! — Ludopedia^(Talk) 18:16, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Admin Check help

Hi I've been updating a page User:Jimmy b 1984/John Hindhaugh that had been deleted, it's been moved into my own personal space. I've since updated the page somewhat and would like it checked and reinstated. You will see on the talk page that I have been in dialogue with the person that that removed the article, however I disagree with their view and would like a second opinion.

How can I get this resolved? 5.66.20.40 (talk) 19:14, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

I added the Articles for creation template so you can click the green button to add it to the review queue. On first glance I am tending to agree with the other editor that there does not appear to be evidence of significant coverage of the subject by reliably published third party sources. And you will need to be consistent and refer to Hindhaugh and not John.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:01, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Were you editing a subpage of your user page while logged out? Are you User:Jimmy b 1984? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

yes I am Jimmy b 1984 (talk) 08:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC) I was editing some things earlier however I should of been logged in?