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April 20

Contacting user who has no user page

Hello

I want to contact a user to verify the source of his/her entry on the "Soledad Duterte" page. However, s/he does not appear to have a "talk page". And I note, when mousing over his/her user name on the "View History" page, that it is tagged as "Special contributions" (what does this mean?) and not as "user".

The entry made is (I just found out in the last few days, after chatting with some members of the Roa family) highly contentious because s/he has entered on the page that Eleno Roa, Soledad Duterte's father, "adopted the surname Roa" (ie he did not really belong to the Roa family).

Hope you can assist. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcw8605 (talk • contribs)

Click on the red link to the (so far) non-existent talk page. There, post your question. Give your question a title, and also sign and date it at the end (by hitting "~" four times in a row). You will thereby create the talk page, with your question on it. -- Hoary (talk) 02:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Tcw8605: It sounds like an unregistered user identified by their IP address at the time of the edit. They may have another IP address now and not see messages to the old IP talk page. Links like Special:Contributions/Tcw8605 show all edits by a user. For an IP address it may look like Special:Contributions/49.145.227.37 or Special:Contributions/2602:306:B826:71E0:F504:B622:5D15:973F. If you refer to [1] then it was three years ago and the user is unlikely to see a message now. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Article reference

Sometimes when i cite articles, the article publisher does not have a first or last name but instead there is more then one publisher or that it was listed for example: 88th Air Base Wing Public Affairs. I even see no names on the articles i cite. How do i resolve such an issue?

I sense that you are confusing "publisher" with either "editor" or "author". The publisher is the company that publishes. The author is the person (the authors are the people) who wrote the article. The editor is the person (the editors are the people) who oversaw the content of the entire book before submitting the completed project to the publisher. As an example, Imani Perry is the author or coauthor of one or more texts (without seeing the book, I don't know) within the book Dawoud Bey: Two American Projects; its editors are Corey Keller and Elisabeth Sherman; its publisher is Yale University Press. (For magazines or journals, it's the same; but we normally don't name the editor(s), even if the publication itself does so.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Links in new tab by default

hi. how can i open links not in the same pages but in another tab or window by default? THANKS --JKim (talk) 00:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@JKim: Go to preferences at the top of any page, then 'gadgets' scroll down under 'browsing' and there's a check-box which will enable opening of external links in a new window. Eagleash (talk) 04:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

USDC

Hello-

my recent edit was undone on the USDC subject. I had gotten an message from Alex undoing my contribution base on his opinion or belief that my intention was to promote the company that created such technology. I would have to disagree with what happened. My reason being is that I listed the attorney that help create the technology, but added information about the APY of the USDC. However, if I left the APY out of the article and just talked about the team that created it or the technology it self would that be fine? My intension was never to promote the company what so ever. I simply saw an opportunity that no one had done the research and would like to make my contribution that way. I saw in other crypto-currency like bitcoin had coinable on there page many times. I don't fully understand how my words were thought to be promoting the company when it was just facts without my opinions. please help. thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrguillen3 (talk • contribs) 20 April 2020 02:12 (UTC)

@Mrguillen3:Welcome to Wikipedia. You made several mistakes because there are some things you do not know about Wikipedia. Tha't OK, most newcomers make mistakes, and we simply revert the changes and then try to educate the new editor. Please take this as helpful advice and not as criticism.

• • We call an article that simply points to a list of other articles of the same name a "disambiguation page". USDC is such a page. Content about an entity named "USDC" would belong in a new article, not on the disambiguation page.
  • When someone reverts one of your edits, this is an invitation to discuss the edit with that person. Go to the person's talk page to do that. It's often better to discuss this on an article's talk page, but that's not useful in this particular situation.
  • Writing an article about a new subject is hard. Please take a look at WP:YFA.

Don't give up! -Arch dude (talk) 04:27, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Publishing new page of a celebrity.

So I put up a draft for "Asim Riaz" of India and I wanted to know if I did it right incase I wait for it to be published but the content itself is restricting it from being published.?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluesjuzpretty (talk • contribs) 04:53, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I can't answer your question, but don't forget to strike the tilde (~) key four times in order to sign your name to your questions (or your answers). Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:23, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps you're asking about Draft:Asim Riaz; perhaps you're asking about Draft:Asim riaz. If the former, "Submission rejected on 28 January 2020 by Praxidicae / This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia." It seems that Praxidicae thinks that you have to wait till Riaz becomes quite a bit more noteworthy (and demonstrably so, via reliable publications). -- Hoary (talk) 06:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

This has been discussed at great length and is protected from creation. Riaz is not notable at this time and continuing to create and submit drafts is becoming disruptive. Praxidicae (talk) 12:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Adminship

I want to become admin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mili977 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Mili977, Becoming an administrator is not something one does overnight. It takes months or years of editing that shows you understand the policies of Wikipedia very well. If you ever wish to become one, you must win election by running at WP:RFA, a grueling process. For now, focus on contributing, and if the time is right, someday someone will approach you and offer to nominate you for adminship. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 11:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for guest post

Hey there, I have few articles to publish on your website . My articles are unique and fully self-customized. Are you interested to have my articles and publish on your website as a guest post? Please let me know if you are interested

Regards,— Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.101.43 (talk • contribs) 20 April 2020 11:34 (UTC)

Hello, Wikipedia welcomes articles from any editor with the proviso that the subjects pass the notability guidelines. There is no 'guest post' as such, any person can create a draft article even without an account. However, I would recommend that you create an account (and use it consistently when editing) this has a number of advantages when it comes to editing and as it does not reveal your IP address can be regarded as marginally more private. Before creating draft articles it would be best to edit some existing pages to gain a feel for Wikipedia's policies and conventions. Creating your first article is a major step and can be a difficult process. However, there is nothing to stop you from creating a draft via WP:WIZ or WP:AfC and a handy guide to doing so can be found at WP:YFA. THank you for wanting to contibute. Eagleash (talk) 11:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Please be aware that our website is an encyclopedia. Each article is "encyclopedic": it is an objective factual description of a notable subject that cites reliable sources. See WP:NOT for details. Once an article is contributed, it is not "owned" by the contributor, but is subject to editing by anyone. If you wish to contribute such an article, then welcome! -Arch dude (talk) 16:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Oppose myself?

Can I react with Oppose on my own move request? This is for Talk:Congratulations (PewDiePie, Roomie and Boyinaband song)#Requested move 18 April 2020. —  Melofors  TC  16:52, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I've never heard it called "react" before, but from reading the request, it sounds like it's been discovered that an even better potential name has been found and so you no longer support the request that you made. You don't need to oppose it, you can just simply withdraw it. Useight (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh, makes sense. Thanks. —  Melofors  TC  03:41, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Error on "List of Urban Areas of the United States"

The table providing population density has an error, which is obvious.

The Density Columns using "Population per Square Mile" and "Population per Kilometer" are calculated incorrect. Seems the Square Mile and the Square Kilometer numbers were swapped out. I noticed it only because a square mile is larger than a square kilometer, yet the above mentioned Density indicated there are more people per square mile than a square kilometer.

I hope this helps correct the error. The information provided is very important, and I appreciate the effort made creating the page.

Respectfully yours,

D.W. Kent — Preceding unsigned comment added by DW Kent01 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

At the same density, you have more people in a square mile than in a square kilometer. What's the Problem? In what article? -Arch dude (talk) 18:00, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, DW Kent01. The place to raise issues is the article's talk page, in this case Talk:List of Urban Areas of the United States. But, like Arch dude, I can't see the problem: as you say a square mile is large than a square kilometer, so at a given density there will be more people in the larger area. --ColinFine (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

citation

I am referencing a book with three editors, and no matter how I attempt to write "editor1" or "coeditor2" or anything else, it continues to tell me there are two many names in big red letters! How do I properly cite all three editors of this blinking book?! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Jenhawk777 Which template are you using? Can you put your attempt here on the help desk so we can see what's going on? Alternately, you can look at the documentation for the citation template to figure it out. If you're using Cite book you may want to look here. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

All blessings upon your head! I have the cheat sheet, checked the Manual of style, and can't find a specific mention of multiple editors. I may be blind--or perhaps just stupid, but I am frustrated enough with looking I don't care!  :-). Here is the offending reference: <ref name="Gervers">{{cite book|title=Tolerance and Intolerance: Social Conflict in the Age of the Crusades|coeditor1=Peter Gervers,|coeditor2=Michael Gervers|coeditor3=James M. Powell|publisher=Syracuse University Press|year=2001|ISBN=9780815628699}} My first effort involved editor1last, and so on, then just editor1, and then some screaming. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I checked your reference on books--where did you find that by the way--and it looks like the problem is I left out the dashes in my first effort and things went to Hell in a handbasket thereafter. It's editor-last1, etc right? Jeez. I am an idiot... :-). Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm glad you were able to figure it out! As for where I found that, all templates should have documentation like that, you just have to know the name of the template and then type Template:Cite book (or whatever template you want to look up) in the search bar. Also, Wikipedia:Citation templates has a list of (most of the) citation templates in use on the site with links to their documentation. There's a similar page for warning templates and cleanup templates. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

So. Bad news. I used the editor-last1, editor-first1, then 2 and 3--and it came up in big red letters that there were too many names!!! AARRGGHH! What am I doing wrong?! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I figured it out!!!!! Yay! Whoohoo!!! Thank you!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

How can I get my account confirmed?

It says I need to make 10 edits, so what kind of edits is counted?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzjhaa (talk • contribs)

Zzjhaa All of them. You currently have 3, 2 of them to this help desk, and one of them to Requests for Permissions. That said, I would highly recommend you start out by doing some Basic copyediting to get a feel for how things work around here. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

inaccurate covid 19 cases reported for our county

Hello - I'm contacting for help. If you google La Crosse County Covid-19, the google preview pulled from Wikipedia shows that we have 212 cases, which is not accurate. I work for the public health department and we are getting complaints about this (we only have 26 cases as of today). Can someone assist with making this change? I have never used Wikipedia before and wasn't even sure which page on Wikipedia is pulling up on the Google preview.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.185.130.79 (talk • contribs)

It looks like Google thinks it's pulling from 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Wisconsin#Statistics_by_county, however, it seems to be confused about the columns. That article indicates La Crosse County has 25 cases, which is 21.2 cases per 100,000 people in the county. Google for some reason is dropping the decimal in the number of cases per 100,000 population, and taking that number as being the total number of cases. They are doing that for every county in Wisconsin, as you can see by comparing their chart here with the chart on that Wikipedia page. Unfortunately, we have no control over how Google misrepresents our data. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for flagging this, and I'm sorry for the confusion/complaints! As noted above, I believe this is an issue with how Google is scraping the data from Wikipedia. I've let the Google team that works on the statistics card know about this and will update this thread as soon as I hear back. MPinchuk (WMF) (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

ETA: this appears to be fixed now. Thank you again for the heads up on the issue! If you notice any other discrepancies between the Google stats card and Wikipedia, feel free to ping me or report them to this Wikimedia mailing list MPinchuk (WMF) (talk) 23:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Archiving a web page

Hi, I just noticed that this website is going offline on April 30, 2020. I would like to use it as a source for an article I am writing now. However, when I try to archive it on the Wayback Machine I get a message that says the page is already on the web. Do I have to wait until the page goes dead to archive it? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Yoninah, I'm not sure what happened for you, but I've archived the page now for you.

At https://archive.org/web/ there is a Save Page Now button, which is how you save a page to the archive - I think that if you try to search for a page that still exists, and it hasn't been archived, it just sends you to the live page, as it assumes you are looking for something, not saving something. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 20:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Alex Noble: Thank you. What is the code for the archived page please? Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Yoninah:

<ref>{{cite web |last1=Burtt |first1=Kristyn |title=How Charity & Andrés Strategized Their ‘World Of Dance’ Performances |url=https://www.dancenetwork.tv/Catalog/Post/452/how-charity-andrs-strategized-their-world-of-dance-performances |website=Dance Network |accessdate=21 April 2020 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20200421075943/https://www.dancenetwork.tv/Catalog/Post/452/how-charity-andrs-strategized-their-world-of-dance-performances |archivedate=21 April 2020 |date=8 February 2018}}</ref>

This will show as

References

~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 08:02, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 11:12, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Orphan article

Greetings! Please I need clarification on what an orphan article is? I removed the orphan tag placed on Victor Mbarika because it is linked to ICT University's Wikipedia page but a user "GSS" reversed it. I had earlier checked the rules guiding the use of that tag and discovered its appropriate to remove the tag from the article. Please clarify this. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opeinoluwa101 (talk • contribs) 2020-04-20T22:00:45 (UTC)

Correct. The definition is at WP:Orphan. I have removed the tag. It would obviously be better if more than one article were to be linked to the article in question. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Can you help me find the tool that showed articles needing pictures?

I'm trying to think of things to suggest people do while social distancing. I often take photos of things that are nearby, but the Special:Nearby feature stops a certain number of articles and it can't filter to only show articles needing photos.

I seem to remember seeing something on wmflabs.org that did exactly this, but I can't find it now. It basically produced a list of articles needing photos within a radius of lat/long coordinates. But I can't find it now. Can someone help? - Scarpy (talk) 21:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Scarpy:..Wikipedia:Requested pictures.....Category:Wikipedia requested images....Pages needing images sorted by most pageviews. See also Commons:Picture requests.--Moxy 🍁 22:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Moxy: where can I filter by latitude and longitude? - Scarpy (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Not sure you can but Category:Wikipedia requested images is broken down into subcategories some by State some by City some by region etc.. if that helps.--Moxy 🍁 01:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

is it possible to get the code/query Special:Nearby uses and modify the filter? - Scarpy (talk) 05:24, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Help: error references

Kosmos 214 ([[User CRS-20 talk:CRS-20|talk]]) 23:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@CRS-20:  Fixed! It appears the reference errors were in the first instance of your article. I suggest you create future articles as drafts and them publish them as articles when they are complete. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I can do with "edit source", but I can not do with "edit". And a very big thank you for your help. Cordially. CRS-20 (talk) 04:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC)