Talk:List of most expensive Indian cinema films

Order

Why is the list out of order? 50.138.136.40 (talk) 05:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Just wasn't done before. Should be good now. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:44, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of the most expensive productions

Chandralekha (1948), Mother India (1957) and Mughal-e-Azam (1960) have also been the most expensive Indian films during their time of release, with respective budgets of ₹3 million, ₹3.5 million, and ₹10.5 million.

Can we turn this to a timeline à la Timeline of the most expensive million dollar productions? Also please help me find more sources for the subsequent record-holders. Thanks! Josephjames.me (talk) 12:17, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes. But finding sources by me is hard. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:23, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I know. But can't we try? Do you know which was the most expensive after Mughal-e-Azam? Thanks in advance:) Josephjames.me (talk) 12:30, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Let's take what we have and make that for now. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:47, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Ricky81682! Expecting a reply soon Kailash29792 :) Josephjames.me (talk) 13:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Unfinished film

I removed the unfinished film 2.0 from the list. There is no sense in listing the production cost of films that has not completed production.--Charles Turing (talk) 13:06, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I know, because they may unexpectedly go beyond budget. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:19, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Even bahubali 2 is under the list which is also incomplete. Wikipedia editing is based on what the page of the movie says. We include all the movies NITHISH NADARAJAH (talk) 12:48, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Baahubali 2 at-least started filming, it is not the case for announced films with an estimated budget. But it is preferred to avoid filming productions also, as the final film can go beyond budget or less than estimated.--2405:204:D00D:9DBF:8884:AE20:4888:C7B0 (talk) 09:06, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Please see and comment on section "Budget for films that have not begun or completed production" below. Bollyjeff | talk 13:28, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Seperate lists for different languages

Kailash29792, Ricky81682: Can we add lists for different languages? I'll add for Malayalam here. Thanks! JosephJames 04:52, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Then what do we do for multilingual films? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:16, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Kailash29792: Can't we do it like 'List of highest-grossing Indian films'? JosephJames 06:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Charles Turing: Any help? JosephJames 15:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

• Support different lists. The same reasoning I think applies as was done for the highest-grossing films at Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films/Archive_1#Merge_discussion when the choice was to merge. I don't really see the volume of content that would require splitting the page into separate pages but I think we should cut the full list to a top ten maybe and then have separate list by language to mirror the highest-grossing page. Multilingual films can be debated the same way that Baahubali was fought over there. It should be able to be consist across the entire project how we categorize each film. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:17, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Ricky81682... How can I be of any help? JosephJames 14:16, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Ricky81682, Charles Turing, Kailash29792: Hey! I have done some work on the article... See if it is any good. Thanks! JosephJames 10:06, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Superb! But I think the "Tamil" section can be expanded. Films like Sivaji and Dasavatharam are pretty expensive I believe. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:20, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Good job. It's a great effort you have taken. --Charles Turing (talk) 18:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Kailash29792: Aren't ten films enough? Anyway, there are varying claims on the budget of both. JosephJames 10:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Charles Turing: Any help on the "Malayalam" section? JosephJames 10:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Ya, 10 sounds enough. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The budget of Samrajyam II is dubious. It's my "personal opinion" though as I have seen the film & have thoughts about a possible promotional claim. But when googled I couldn't find any contrary claim. --Charles Turing (talk) 17:44, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Charles Turing: Yes. I also believe that it is a promotional tool. JosephJames 06:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Proposed scope?

Anyone have any thoughts on a proposed scope? Seems like the kind of page that could just keep growing forever. List of highest-grossing Indian films keeps the individual languages at a max of 10 examples, with the overview listing the top 15 films. Frankly, I think top 10 is sufficient for the overview as well. The overview on this article has 22 examples, which is just weird.

Changes in most expensive Tamil movies

Dasavathaaram is one of the most expensive Tamil movies. In fact, when it was released in 2008, it was the most expensive Indian movie at the time of release. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/business-of-bollywood/a-rendezevous-with-kamal-haasan/articleshow/4357064.cms?from=mdr

Lingaa's budget is 120 crores. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/lingaa-box-office-rajinis-film-sets-5-new-records-collection-centres-617372#M25kls9GKoOYOoE5.97

Kabali's budget is 170 crores. http://www.forbes.com/sites/dongroves/2016/07/23/record-debuts-for-tamil-superstar-rajinikanths-kabali-as-producer-discusses-piracy-and-a-sequel/#1dba2e4739a9

Please make the appopriate changes as they are from reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadelison (talk • contribs) 07:12, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Let me tell you something, Wadelison: Indian trade and box office analysts are not really as credible as Box Office Mojo, because each analyst has his own account of how much a film earns, contradicting the others (akin to the blind men and an elephant). I therefore believe all these figures are estimates, and there must be a consensus before they can be included. Josephjames.me, what do you think of them? Kailash29792 (talk) 09:38, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

But Kabali's budget figure was given by the producer himself in an interview with Forbes, and not by a box office analyst. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.248.198.1 (talk) 11:21, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Wadelison: I have told this earlier also. Different sources throw in different estimates. We can't really say which one is real. Though I believe the producer's word COULD be taken as the correct figure (which is why I believe the figure for Dasavathaaram MIGHT be true), the budget for Kabali given by Forbes seems really exaggerated. IBTimes is not really a reliable source (they take data from Twitter accounts at times), though I use it usually due to lack of more reliable sources. I'd go with the 80 cr. budget for Lingaa given by IANS. Still, you can't say for sure about any of this.

Kailash29792: Thanks for the invite! I am glad that you invite me for all these box office related discussions, though I don't believe I am any kind of an expert in this matter. Numbers fascinate me, I guess! JosephJames 14:28, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I still think that most of the Indian law, media and police are unaware of the concept of fruit of the poisonous tree, which states that evidence from poor sources cannot be used (but people here do it anyway). Kailash29792 (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

188.248.198.1, re: "But Kabali's budget figure was given by the producer himself in an interview with Forbes, and not by a box office analyst", I'm sure if you were to think about this, you would realize the inherent trouble with reprinting financial data given by primary sources (ex: a film's producer, distributor, director, actor, publicity wing, etc.) But in case it's not obvious, we have to be circumspect about statements made by primary sources, because they have a vested financial reason to fudge the numbers. In some cases they could have an interest in inflating the numbers, perhaps to attract more viewers to their project to witness the spectacle, or to make themselves more valuable as a director/producer/actor or to lure investors for future projects. In some cases they could have an interest in deflating the numbers, perhaps to reduce their entertainment tax liability or their liability to investors. Simply regurgitating what a producer says is rarely the right choice, which is why we prefer content to be derived from research performed by reliable secondary sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Budget for films that have not begun or completed production

At some point, participants here are going to have to figure out whether or not it's wise to include in these lists films that haven't even begun production. For instance, Karnan keeps getting added, with a production budget of 300 crore, but it hasn't started production. Why are those figures being included? For all we know, that's just pre-release hype. Same with Randamoozham. Though sources[1][2] say that it's going to cost 600 crore, it hasn't cost a single rupee if production hasn't begun. We're putting the cart before the horse here by including huge budgets for films that haven't been made. What if the 600 crore film comes in at 100 crore? Then the film's producers get all the pre-release hype, using Wikipedia for its marketing. That's now how stuff should work here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

These should absolutely NOT be included. Read: Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Bollyjeff | talk 02:02, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Only completed films should be included in the table. But no-one will listen. Please get the page protected indefinitely. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

This is indeed a very good idea. Only films that have completed post-production should be included in this list. I had included Randamoozham because I had seen in the list other films like Sangamitra, Kali (Kannada), KGF (Kannada) etc. which haven't even begun production! Even 2.0 should not be included in the list since it is apparently still in production and a final budget figure is just an estimate or hype-figure. All released films shall stay. Shall remove the others now. Kali and Sangamitra haven't even begun production, while 2.0 and KGF (Kannada) are in production and Baahubali: The Conclusion is just entering post-production. So these 5 films need to be removed from the list. PlutoniumBackToTheFuture (talk) 15:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Fylindfotberserk, yeah. Also, what do you think about the previous proposal to exclude the films under production from the list (everyone who participated was in favour, notifying Kailash29792 who is active now). Looking at List of most expensive films, it does not include any films under production. While I'm okay with the films under post-production/the ones close to release but would support removing them altogether to maintain consistency. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: I'd agree to that as well. Far higher chance of fake financial figures before a film is released. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: That's always there. I guess its time to prune them all. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

I would not include a film's budget if it was still in production as most big budget films tend to overshoot. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:04, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, I have removed all the unreleased films as per consensus. Ab207 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, MNWiki84556. Please do not add unreleased films as per the above discussion. Thanks --

Most Expensive Indian Films

2.0 Rs 400 Crore Lyca Productions Baahubali The conclusion Rs 250 Crore Arka Media Works Please add this V99991111 (talk) 11:21, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@V99991111: -  Not done - Please provide reliable sources. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:59, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

List of most expensive indian films

There is no proper research about list of most expensive indian films please do explain at the start does it include film making cost, casting cost and print and advertising cost V99991111 (talk) 09:14, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Randamoozham - Languages

There is no Kannada version for Randamoozham. The director mentions all the versions here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nsc5LiEgLjw?t=263 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlutoniumBackToTheFuture (talk • contribs) 11:23, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2017

Allow me to edit the currency data which is falsely converted from rupees to dollars . 175 crore rupees is equal to 27 million dollars , but this article mentioned it as 31 million dollars. RtejanS (talk) 06:11, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sakuura Cartelet ^Talk 20:54, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Enthiran is a Tamil film.

THe Telugu and Hindi versions of the 2010 film Enthiran were DUBBED from its original Tamil version. Please refrain from adding those as official languages of production. The sequel isn't yet released. PlutoniumBackToTheFuture (talk) 06:30, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Please remove 'Most Expensive Franchises'

Please remove 'Most Expensive Franchises' list section as it does not contain any reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadelison (talk • contribs) 08:28, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

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2.0

We have got source about 2.0 and it has costed 450cr why not we update it *^🦂😎 Nabeelgm 😎^🦂(Talk)•°Nabeel Gm 17:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC) Nabeel Gm 17:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Please delete 'Most expensive Indian franchises'

Please delete 'Most expensive Indian franchises' as it does not have any sources and references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadelison (talk • contribs) 11:06, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Thugs of Hindostan

The budget of Thugs of Hindostan as sourced from this is Rs. 220 cr excluding Print & Publicity costs of Rs. 20 cr. However, on this page, the higher budget of 300 cr from non-trade sources is used. On the other hand, TOH's wiki page gives Rs. 220 cr as the budget. What is the accurate budget for this film? --Reo kwon (talk) 14:08, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

220 crore budget seems legit since it is excluding print and marketing. Different agencies have different sources, but 300 cr seems absurd - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

2.0's budget

Following up this edit, director Shankar quotes 2.0's budget lower than the current 570 crore:

As far as I know, the budget stands between Rs 400 to Rs 450 crore for the film alone. In addition, the producers have spent a huge chunk for the publicity and other production costs

Then there are other sources: this source which says the budget is 400 crore (anonymous to India Today) while Rajnikanth at trailer launch said its as high as 600 crore. Perhaps we should go for a range with footnote explaining the discrepancies. @Fylindfotberserk and Anandsharma607: -- Ab207 (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: I'd agree for a range. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Added range for 2.0 and a few other films. There is still so much inconsistency between this list and the film articles, different sources etc which I reckon would take a lot of effort to address. Ab207 (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2022

Please add Vikram film in this list. Madhesh Elumalai (talk) 10:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Highlights for most expensive at the time?

In many lists like List of tallest buildings, we highlight those that were the tallest at time of completion. Could we do the same here? Eg. Enthiran is more significant for being #1 in 2010 than for being #13 today. Jpatokal (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

We should limit the table

The table is getting too gib should we limit the table to 30 movies or at max 35 movies only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Repto79456 (talk • contribs) 13:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Admins update the table, there are many high budget movies missing

Missing movies in the table

1. Kanguva
2. Bade Miyan Chote Miyan (2024 film)
3. Devara: Part 1
4. Pushpa 2: The Rule
5. Guntur Kaaram
6. Game Changer (film)
7. OG (upcoming film)

Jaggu5239 (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Devara

300 cricket budget update pls 2405:201:C027:6866:6191:A2EF:9E5C:656B (talk) 13:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Summary of changes made

1. Clarification of Sources: Ensured that only reliable ("green") sources were used to maintain fair ranking practices.

2. Industry-Based Categorisation: Switched to categorisation by film industry for a more accurate representation of achievements within individual industries. Given that a large portion of films today are released in multiple dubbed versions, a significant production cost is now associated with these releases, much like for multilingual films.

3. Removed INR Conversion: Removed INR currency conversions to align with WP:ICTFMOS guidelines.

4. Updated Headings and Subsections: Changed headings to more relevant ones and clarified each subsection for consistency with the lead and relevant definitions. Anoop Bhatia (talk) 05:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)