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you have taken an area that has been lived in forever by countless civilizations and made it about kurdish separatists from a cult. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Can Kavak (talk • contribs) 18:59, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're more than welcome to expand the history section. --Semsûrî (talk) 19:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Calling southern turkey a part of kurdistan is misleading Wikipedia readers those areas has historically never been called kurdistan Its illegal to use Wikipedia for personal ideological aspirations

This misleading and untrue information should immediately be corrected

Further steps will be taken if necessary 

Bekir321 (talk) 10:55, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alevi population in Malatya

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Alevi population in Malatya is beetween 18-20 percent(You can see that in election results)and more than half of them are Turkish.Not vast of them are Kurdish like some Kurdish nationalist claims.Aslanstatistic123 (talk) 17:31, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That is not what the reference (11) states. It states that the Alevi population is overwhelmingly Kurdish. --Semsûrî (talk) 17:46, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Go and look for Turkish and Kurdish Alevi village numbers you can see Turkish one is a little bit much more.I can find a lots of references that against it,that's not the issue.Aslanstatistic123 (talk) 17:53, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are the one contesting the reference, not me. Show reliable references for your claims. --Semsûrî (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

İf you look this maps you can see that[1][2],but ı guess you don't wan't to see it.Aslanstatistic123 (talk) 18:26, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These maps are not reliable references. --Semsûrî (talk) 19:22, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They are,and you know at least half of Malatya's Alevi population is Turkish.There are lots of map's and source show Alevi Turkish villages in Malatya.For example in this web site you can see [3] all of Alevi villages in Arguvan(most of them turkish) listed with their Oghuz tribal origins.Aslanstatistic123 (talk) 19:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You should check Wikipedia:Reliable sources. I can also make such maps; they are not reliable. It would be best to find a reliable academic source that states that most Alevis in Malatya are Turks. Hamza Aksüt who specializes on Alevis makes a whole list of Alevi Kurdish villages in Arguvan on page 208[1] --Semsûrî (talk) 20:56, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The last source i added is very reliable and also it also includes from Hamaza Aksüt's studies you can see Oghuz tribes names in villages in Arguvan.And i did not say overwhelming majority of Alevis in Malatya is Turkish,but at least half of them are Turkish,but in wikipedia page abaout Malatya provience it says vast majority of them Kurdish and that's not correct.There are Alevi Turkish villages in Doğanşehir and Akçadağ but that doesn't change majority of Alevis in that district is Kurdish so your “Kurdish villages in Arguvan ” argument is false.Also first map is reliable it includes all of villages election results it is more important than some book written by foreigners.Aslanstatistic123 (talk) 21:14, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/tr/map/ethnic-map-of-malatya-not-yet-updated_240494#8/38.598/38.057
  2. ^ http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/tr/map/malatya-ethnic-map_352933
  3. ^ https://www.alevisiteleri.com/malatya-arguvan-alevi-koylerinin-kokeni.html

kurdistan ?

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Having Malatya being considered as a province of Turkish kurdistan as the most prominent thing here is rather disingenuous. Malatya is a Turkish majority province that is almost entirely filled with people that speak Turkish. 92.233.61.183 (talk) 21:31, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, IP user! You are welcome to help improve the article, but all information should be cited with a reliable source. This helps keep Wikipedia verifiable, which is one of its core policies. If you cite the information with a source, feel free to add it to the article! Perfect4th (talk) 21:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Political Propaganda and full of invalidated references

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First thing first. There is no Malatya provience in the history and in the existing timeline. This page is only created mirror page of the Malatya city for propaganda you can see the content. According to Encyclopedia of Islam ( which is not valid and accepted by authorities) Malatya is in the Turkish Kurdistan but when you clicked the referenced link it is not. Timeline of the Malatya history the major population dense changed between ethnic groups Armenians, Greeks, Turks but Kurdish ethnic population never was Majority. The Kurdish populatio increased after migration from neighboring cities. See the references William Harrison Ainsworth visited the city of Malatya in 1837, noting a population of 8 thousand Muslims, chiefly Turkomans, and 3 thousand Armenians.[38] it is in the Malatya city page of Wikipedia. And history section of Malatya Provience; Really? At least I referenced valuable historical facts including Armenians, Kurdish, Byzantium people but here it is propaganda sentence not historical information and as I looked your background it is your tribe and you are making propaganda of feodalism for the people here is the existing history of Malatya Provience: The province was the regional center of Kurdish nationalism in the early 20th century. The local governor of the province and mayor of Malatya city were both sympathetic to the Kurdish cause and Celadet Bedir Khan, Kamuran Alî Bedirxan and other members of the Society for the Rise of Kurdistan visited the region various times and established cordial relations with the local tribes including with the Reşwan tribe.[12]

I am against to every type of radical nationalism and political motives to violate human rights for accessing true information. Again people nations do not own the Lands, Lands own people and the story of people passing through these lands should not be removed and violated with radical political dreams. Manukpamuk (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is indeed a province in Turkey called Malatya Province and the city of Malatya is the capital of that province. However, administratively the city is called Yeşilyurt and Battalgazi. Now, all of the information is based on reliable references and nothing to do with 'radical nationalism and political motives'. Read about how Wikipedia works before you go on a rant. Semsûrî (talk) 15:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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