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FBG Cash moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, FBG Cash, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for moving the article to draftspace. I was interrupted whilst writing it and didnt know how to save it without losing the work I had already done. Now I know. Andymcteddybear (talk) 11:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths in 2022

Don't repost Tyler Sanders again, he is already in the list. --Marbe166 (talk) 21:11, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Is the date correct? Should it not be June 17? Andymcteddybear (talk) 21:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 16th per multiple reliable sources. Ref ^(chew)(do) 06:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: FBG Cash (June 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gusfriend was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

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Gusfriend (talk) 13:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback.

I will amake the necessary amendments and resubmit for review. Andymcteddybear (talk) 14:54, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ravi Paranjape moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Ravi Paranjape, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 2022

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Ravi Paranjape. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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Hi,

Thank you for your comments. Just to clarify, I selected the “Ravi Paranjape” entry from Deaths in 2022 and there was a note saying that the page had been deleted as it did not meet Wikipedia’s standards for publication (or words to that effect). I then simply put new content on the page and clicked the “Publish” button at the top or bottom of the page.

I cannot recall giving the page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Ravi Paranjape. The original article had been deleted and as such, I have no idea what was on the page.

I was not aware of the “Move tab” at the top of the page. Thank you making me aware of it. Andymcteddybear (talk) 08:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Leonie Kotelawala has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Leonie Kotelawala. Thanks! DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for spotting the error. The name has been corrected. Most of the sources seem to spell her name and surname as "Leonie Kotelawala". For some reason her, late husband's name is spelt Kothelawala. I have changed it to Kotelawala. Andymcteddybear (talk) 18:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Leonie Kotelawala has been accepted

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DIVINE 05:54, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. Andymcteddybear (talk) 06:57, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please help me with resubmitting my article for review I wish to resubmit my draft FBG Cash for review but the resubmit button has disappeared from the article. Please could you let me know how I get it back. Andymcteddybear (talk) 15:07, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored the old decline notice (which you removed in a previous edit). If you want more help, change the {{help me-helped}} back into a {{help me}}, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 15:17, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Andymcteddybear (talk) 15:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please help me with... I have just moved my Draft:Anthony Drake from Draft Space to Article space as Anthony Drake to publish it but something seems to have gone wrong.

Please could you let me know what I should do to move it correctly and publish it without braking any links.

Many thanks. Andymcteddybear (talk) 19:36, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me, although edits by others may have fixed the problem - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 20:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rich,

Thank you for checking. I was expecting the article to be linked to the original entry that was listed under Deaths in 2022 on June 1 but the entry seems to have disappeared. Any Idea where it may have gone or how I can find it? Andymcteddybear (talk) 20:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks. Andymcteddybear (talk) 10:20, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Still waiting for the book Growing Pains: An Inspirational True Story of Growing Up Small in a Big World to verify the information received so far. Delivery takes 3-5 business days. Andymcteddybear (talk) 11:57, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The proposed deletion message has been replaced by Saksapoiss even though there is a clear Wikipedia guideline that once the message has been removed, it should not be replaced. How do I inform Saksaposs that notability is not an issue as we are still waiting for more information in order to improve it. The information we are waiting for is likely to take longer than 3 working days. Andymcteddybear (talk) 06:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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AfC notification: Draft:Susie Steiner has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Susie Steiner. Thanks! asilvering (talk) 04:27, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly. I will update it and get back to you shortly. Andymcteddybear (talk) 06:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ken Williams (songwriter). Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 21:21, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The career section still needs more content. Andymcteddybear (talk) 08:38, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ken Williams (songwriter) has been accepted

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Hello, Andymcteddybear,

If you have questions about recreating a deleted article, please bring them to the Teahouse. No one sees talk pages of deleted articles except for those of us who delete orphaned talk pages. It's better to go to somewhere where experienced editors can answer your questions than by asking them on a page that no one will come across except for the admin who is there to delete the page. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 13:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Thank you for gettting in touch. I have gathered the necessary information for creating a new page for an entry "Michael James Jackson, 56, American music producer (Kiss, L.A. Guns). listed under Deaths in 2022 (13 July 2022). When I click on the red link, I get the followng message:

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If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below.

12:48, 2 February 2015 Daniel talk contribs deleted page Michael James Jackson (Deleting redirects to "Michael Jackson (priest)" after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Jackson (priest)) (thank)

13:47, 25 May 2011 DBD talk contribs moved page Michael James Jackson to Michael Jackson (priest) (common name & dab per WP:NCWC) (revert) (thank)

I bave contacted the above users whose pages have been deleted or moved but I have not had a response. My draft article is currently on a notepad and as such, it is difficult to put any citations or ferences to it.

What should I do?

Thank you. Andymcteddybear (talk) 14:25, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Jacksons

Hi Andymcteddybear. Following our recent discussion at the Teahouse, I see that you have now created an article for Michael James Jackson (record producer), which is what I think you intended to ask about. Today, I was a bit surprised to find that you have also started in mainspace an article Michael James Jackson (priest) which purports to be a rewrite of Michael Jackson (priest) which as you know was deleted after this 2015 deletion discussion. I'm not sure what motivated you to attempt this rewrite but as it stands it has a fatal flaw. The only reference cited is in fact a direct copy of the original Wikipedia article on him from before it was removed. That won't work as Wikipedia can't be used as a source! See WP:CIRCULAR for the guidance. The original article used a different link which now gives a 404 (page not found) error. While it might be possible to find that webpage in the Wayback Machine or similar archive, you would still only have a reference that was inadequate according to the deletion discussion. For that reason, without much more research I don't think that the new article will "stick". Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

The reason I did this is because there are two pages that are meant to link to Michael James Jackson (priest) but they incorrectly link to Michael James Jackson (record producer). Here they are:

* Michael James Jackson (priest) (1925–1995), priest and Canon in the Church of England; see St George's Minster, Doncaster

* Michael James Jackson 1969 to 1973

Initially, I changed the link on the Michael Jackson (disambiguation) page from Michael James Jackson to Michael James Jackson (priest). The link turned red since there is no such page. I then created the holding page for Michael James Jackson (priest) with very little detail in the hope that the user who made the above entries will notice and update it with the correct information.

Another option is to replace the entry on the Michael James Jackson (disambiguation) page with Michael James Jackson (record producer) but I was reluctant to start deleteing stuff or making material changes. Similarly, I was reluctant to make material changes to the Doncaster Minster page.

If the holiding page i have created is deleted, the above entries will turn red.

Thanks Andymcteddybear (talk) 16:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's not how I would have done it but we are where we are. I don't see your rewrite about the priest surviving the new pages patrol at the current level of sourcing and maybe it should be prodded to delete it to save them time. You can do that now or leave it up to them. Meanwhile, the disambiguation page can still hold the name of the priest because it is already stated there that any information about him is held at Doncaster Minster. There is almost nil chance of anyone being motivated to expand that stub.

As to the record producer, it seems to me he is marginally notable but nevertheless may be left in mainspace by the NPP. This would be even more likely if you could develop the article to include more sources showing notability, since citation #3 is not independent and hence the article currently fails WP:THREE. Whether deleted or not, you are perfectly within the rules to add this name now to the DAB page as a new entry in the "Entertainment industry" section, maybe adding his dob and dod to confirm his identity. You don't need to replace the entry for the priest. Then you should check that incoming links to the record producer's page are entirely those they should be. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will do as you suggest, particularly PROD, without delay. Thank you so much. Andymcteddybear (talk) 18:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Mark Astronaut (October 29)

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No idea what

"(I will add more later ... all of this is from interviews I conducted with Mark and various other people for the book Survivors 45 Years of The Astronauts)

Marcus Blakeston.

PS, I don't know how to add links or references, someone else will have to do that."

is all about. I found I could not look past that

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Ken Williams (songwriter)

Belatedly, I've removed your "Discography" section - it was substantially inaccurate in that several of the entries related to a quite different person - the English comedian Kenneth Williams. I'll see if I can put together a proper discography if I have time. Please be more careful with your editing in future. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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