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Wikidata weekly summary #634
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2024-07-01. Please help Translate. Discussions
Press, articles, blog posts, videos
Tool of the week
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Newest properties and property proposals to review
You can comment on all open property proposals! Did you know?
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).
- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
- An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
- Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).
- If you are interested in stopping spammers, please put MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist on your watchlist, and help out when you can.
Wikidata weekly summary #648
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week leading up to 2024-10-07. Please help Translate. Missed the previous one?
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<translate>Events</translate> <translate>* Upcoming:
- Wikidata Day 2024 at the Pratt Institute Manhattan Campus, New York - To celebrate Wikidata's 12th Birthday, a mini-conference with beginner workshops, lightning talks and keynote speeches will be held. October 26, 11am - 5pm EDT (UTC-4). More info, registration and full address on this Wikipedia event page.
- The Wikidata Days 2024 in Bologna, Italy will take place on November 8th and 9th. Its program revolves around Wikidata for libraries and academia, and features a wide range of Wikidata-enthusiastic librarians and researchers from Italy. Registration is open until October 31st.
- The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 16th October 2024 at 18:00 CEST in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
- Scholia hackathon on Oct 18-20, aimed at addressing changes related to the Wikidata graph split
- Intangible Cultural Heritage on Wikidata - Hosted by Wikimedia Community Malta (WCM), November 8, 2024 18:00 - 19:00 CEST, Malta Fairs and Conference Centre (MFCC) in Ta’ Qali, Malta
- Edit-A-Thon: 50 States of Comics - Ohio, take part in this virtual event held October 10, 10:00 - 16:00 EST (UTC-5).</translate>
<translate>Press, articles, blog posts, videos</translate> <translate>* Blogs
- Wikidata is a giant crosswalk file dbreunig.com describes how with a little DuckDB and Ruby and data from Wikidata, you can produce a cross-walk file of geographic entities.
- Videos
- (ru) Wikidata Reconciliation Service - This video shows how to add QID's to a large number of person-entities, add descriptions and search by full name and years of life. Wikidata reconciliation for OR (Script: Github:Podbrushkin)
- (fr) Data recovery on Wikidata for the DataViz project - PhilippGam presents the various methods to extract and sort data from Wikidata and use the wikidataMultiSearch tool.
- Bridging the Digital Scriptorium Data Model and Wikidata to Expand Reuse of Manuscript Metadata Rose McCandless gives this lighning talk at the LD4 2024 Conference.
- Notebooks
<translate>Tool of the week</translate>
- (fr) wikidata MultiSearch - search for a list of elements in Wikidata. A GPLv3 licenced tool built by Philippe Gambette allows you to search for a list of words in Wikidata and retrieve some associated Wikidata properties.
<translate>Other Noteworthy Stuff</translate>
- Are you building applications or services with Wikidata's data? We'd love to hear from you to help us figure out the future of accessing Wikidata's data.
- Wikidata: Event Organizers - If you are organizing or thinking about planning a Wikidata event, this new page listing the additional User rights the user-role 'event organizer' has will be a valuable resource. Including the process for applying for permission rights.
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<translate>* Newest properties:
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- handwriting example (sample image of the person's handwriting)
- objects of occurrence have role (role that objects of this occurrence take on in the context of this occurrence. (For selectional restrictions, use "object class of occurrence" (P12913) instead.))
- agents of action have role (role that agents of this action take on in the context of this action. (For selectional restrictions, use "agent class of action" (P12994) instead. ))
- agent class of action (class of items that may initiate this action or class of actions (For roles filled by agents of an action, use "agents of action have role" (P12993) instead))
- agent of action (particular item that initiates this action or class of actions)
- characteristic of ((qualifier only) statement value is a characteristic, quality, property, or state of this qualifier value)
- has kanji reading (phonetic reading or pronunciation of the kanji)
- publication type of scholarly work (Publication type of scholarly work)
- leased to (person or organisation that holds or was granted a lease on the subject)
- magazine capacity (number of projectiles or objects in the magazine feeding a weapon or tool)
- General datatypes:</translate>
<translate>** External identifiers:</translate> Finnish Business ID, Prosocour person ID, Stadtwiki Karlsruhe ID, Athletics New Zealand athlete ID, Encyclopedia of Tunisian Women person ID, LMFDB knowl ID, ACUM performer ID, ACUM creator/publisher ID, ACUM Work ID, ACUM album ID, culture.ru organization ID, Hindustan Times topic ID, Newgrounds submission ID, Storia della civiltà europea ID, Encyclopedia of Brno History literature ID, Linked Open Vocabularies ID, Ontobee ID, typeset.io journal ID, NooSFere editorial collection ID, pomniky.npmk.cz ID, Dictionary of guerrillas and anti-Franco resistance fighters ID, e-LIS publication ID, GameReactor company ID, Latgales dati person ID, FantLab artist ID, RedBA Granada authority ID, NWIS site ID, MetalTabs.com band ID, Koha Kütüphane ID, HA! artwork ID, France television program ID, Radio France program ID, Grand Est inventory ID, Norwegian Media Authority's film rating ID, Historical Encyclopedia of Siberia ID, Münzkabinett ID, MyWaifuList character ID, Kramerius of Czech Digital Library UUID, European Parliament document ID, Western Australian Biographical Index, beniabbandonati (detailed sheet) ID, beniabbandonati (summary sheet) ID, Biblioteka Nauki article ID, Biblioteka Nauki journal ID, Biblioteka Nauki book ID, Biblioteka Nauki publisher ID, PNM Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom person ID, DDB person ID <translate>* New property proposals to review:
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- Larval host plant (Larval host plant - used only for insects - subclass of P1034)
- chemical formula (Description of chemical compound giving element symbols and counts)
- mode of reproduction (ways for living organisms to propagate or produce their offsprings)
- health points (health or armor points of this video game, board game or role-playing game character)
- damage (damage value of this video game weapon, ability or character)
- male mean age (male mean age in a given place; qualifier of {{P|4442}})
- female mean age (female mean age in a given place; qualifier of {{P|4442}})
- Mummy of a person (mummy of a person)
- WPBSA com player ID (Identifier for an athlete on the main website of WPBSA)
- JLPT level (difficulty of word by the level of JLPT)
- beer style (Classification of a beer based on its style)
- has forks (Notable software forks of this software)
- Monument Counter ID (Digital memorial for women killed by violence)
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<translate>** External identifiers:</translate> case id (mainland China), BioMed Central journal ID, FightTime fighters ID, Korean Basketball League ID, Identifiant L'Humanité d’un sujet, Chinese Basketball Association ID2, KISTI institute ID, Hlídač státu subject ID, Acervo de Literatura Digital Mato-Grossense Person ID, Cihai encyclopedia entry ID, Cihai dictionary entry ID, Duocet Wiki of Plants ID, Dwelly entry ID, Indo-Tibetan Lexical Resource ID, A digital concordance of the R̥gveda ID, vardnica.aizpute.lv ID, Identifiant CIRDOC d'un auteur ou d'une autrice, Identifiant CIRDOC d'un document, Department of Defense Identification Code, Identifiant d'un document audiovisuel dans le catalogue de l'Inathèque, LWW journal ID, BAHRA ID, World Historical Gazetteer place ID, Diccionario biográfico de Castilla-La Mancha ID, AniSearch person ID, identifiant Babelio d'un sujet, Identifiant d'une personne sur Madelen, ITTF PTT ID, Push Square series ID, VG247 series ID, dtf.ru person ID
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<translate>* Newest WikiProjects:
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- Lingnan University Library: Wikidata Pilot Project - Creating and improving entries for Lingnan University academic staff, as well as generating entries for the Library's digital collections and Lingnan theses and dissertations.
- French Literary Prizes - Aims to coordinate the development of a database on French literary prizes (list of prizes, jury members, list of winners)
- Cycling: 2025 Races - documenting the the planned Cycling races for 2025.
- Newest database reports: Abuse filter effectiveness - This DB report compiles a variety of statistics on combating vandalism.</translate>
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- We have published a survey to better understand the future needs of application developers who want to work with Wikidata's data. Please take part if you are developing applications or services using data from Wikidata.
- We are analyzing query logs to better understand which queries could be moved to other services in the future.
- Design system: We continued migrating the Query Builder and Special:NewLexeme from Wikit to Codex</translate>
<translate>You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.</translate>
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- Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme above.
- Summarize your WikiProject's ongoing activities in one or two sentences.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!</translate>
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for clearing out many copyvio revdel requests of mines. Your help is greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work! :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC) |
Wikidata weekly summary #649
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2024-10-14. Missed the previous one? See issue #648
Press, articles, blog posts, videos
Tool of the week
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Newest properties and property proposals to review
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The Signpost: 19 October 2024
[edit]- News and notes: One election's end, another election's beginning
- Recent research: "As many as 5%" of new English Wikipedia articles "contain significant AI-generated content", says paper
- In the media: Off to the races! Wikipedia wins!
- Contest: A WikiCup for the Global South
- Traffic report: A scream breaks the still of the night
- Book review: The Editors
- Humour: The Newspaper Editors
- Crossword: Spilled Coffee Mug
Wikidata weekly summary #650
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2024-10-21. Missed the previous one? See issue #649 Discussions
Press, articles, blog posts, videos
Tool of the week
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Newest properties and property proposals to review
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Invitation to participate in a research
[edit]Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this anonymous survey.
You do not have to be an Administrator to participate.
The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its Meta page and view its privacy statement .
Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns.
Kind Regards,
BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Copyright
[edit]Hello. Thank you for addressing the copyvio request at Tomoyuki Yamashita. The issue is not that our article reproduced the full text of Yamashita's "Last Will" from 1946; but that our article reproduced the full text of Yuki Tanaka's English translation, published 2005; which has its own copyright. Rotary Engine talk 18:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Rotary Engine are you sure the translation is Tanaka's? Nthep (talk) 18:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Revdel
[edit]You declined a revdel of Draft:Barney's World. Even if the current revison is attributing the source, the previous versions are not. They need to be deleted. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 08:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Copy Vio at Hee Oh
[edit]Hey @Nthep
I have seen you recently rev deleted a copy vio from Hee Oh. While patrolling through RecentChanges, I found this edit by the same IP, with my usual routine, I rolled it back using Twinkle and warned the user of unsourced content. Later realized that it was the same copy vio content added by the same IP. Now I cannot add it back with a rev del request, neither can I report it anywhere, that is why I kindly request you to rev del my rollback, and the IPs copy vio.
Thanks! Bunnypranav (talk) 16:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav Done. You don't need to add it back to add a revdel request, in fact adding it back is the last thing we want. Nthep (talk) 16:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is why I chose to drop you a message. Thanks for that. Bunnypranav (talk) 16:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav (talk page watcher) Forgive the unsolicited advice, but there's a user script, which I'll link here, that you can use to request rev-deletion in this situation without adding it back. In fact, removing the copyright violation is an important part of the process, so thanks for doing that! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- thx, I was just in the middle of adding a reply to the same link. Nthep (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @I dream of horses No need to forgive, and thanks for the advice. After all, we are all here to improve the wiki. Bunnypranav (talk) 04:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav (talk page watcher) Forgive the unsolicited advice, but there's a user script, which I'll link here, that you can use to request rev-deletion in this situation without adding it back. In fact, removing the copyright violation is an important part of the process, so thanks for doing that! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is why I chose to drop you a message. Thanks for that. Bunnypranav (talk) 16:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #551
[edit]week leading up to 2024-10-28. Missed the previous one? See issue #650
Discussions
- Closed request for adminship: Addshore (successful) - Welcome back, Adam!
- New request for comments: Discussion about remove notability for ceb-Wiki
- Wikidata's 12th Birthday is almost here! Let’s celebrate together and make it unforgettable! 🎂 Join in for events happening across the globe in October & November -- there's something for everyone! Here’s how you can be part of the fun.
- Find a local event and connect with fellow Wikidata enthusiasts!
- Give a birthday gift to the community -- whether it's a cool new tool or something fun!
- Join our big online celebration on October 29th -- don’t miss out! Wikidata:Twelfth_Birthday
- Join the special Wikidata Query-party tomorrow and win some branded Wikidata socks! 🎉
- The LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group is taking a break from our new project series format this coming Tuesday, October 29, 2024 at 9am PT / 12pm ET / 16:00 UTC / 6pm CEST (Time zone converter) to celebrate Hallowe'en! We'll be celebrating Spooky Season with a WitchyData Working Hour! Following on Christa Strickler's recent project series, we will continue building proficiency with the Mix'n'match tool, but with a ghoulish twist. Join the fall fun by updating your Zoom background or even coming in costume. BYOC (bring your own candy). Event page: Wikidata:WikiProject LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group/Wikidata Working Hours/2024-October-29 Wikidata Working Hour
Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Blogs: Wikidata celebrates 12. Birthday – These are the coolest queries from 112 million entries (in German) - "Wikidata, the world's largest free knowledge base, celebrates the 12th of October. Birthday. The open data graph for structured knowledge collects facts about numerous terms (items). Meanwhile, Wikidata includes an impressive 112 million items – and many more facts! On the occasion of Wikidata's birthday, we put the collected knowledge to the test and present the most exciting 12 queries that were created from it."
- Videos
- 2024 Wikidata Cross-Domain Forum 2024 (in Chinese)
- Wikidata Day NYC 2024 @ Pratt
- Mapping the Accused Witches of Scotland in place and time
- What is Wikibase and what is it used for? (in Spanish)
- Introduction to Wikidata - Wikidata Days 2024 (First day) (in Spanish)
- Is there a system to capture data in Wikidata automatically? (in Spanish)
Tool of the week
- Lexica – A mobile-friendly tool that simplifies micro contributions to lexicographical data on Wikidata, making various editing tasks accessible and intuitive for contributors of all experience levels. This tool is developed by the WMDE Wikidata Software Collaboration team in Indonesia. Try Lexica through this link: https://lexica-tool.toolforge.org/
Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The Global Open Initiative Foundation is building an open-source web app for Supreme Court cases in Ghana. We are looking for volunteers in the following roles: Frontend Developers, Backend Developers, Wikidata/SPARQL Experts, UI/UX Designers, Quality Assurance (QA) Testers, and Legal Professionals. Join us by sendind your resume and a brief description of your expertise to globalopeninitiativegmail.com
Newest properties and property proposals to review
- Newest General datatypes:
- characteristic of ((qualifier only) statement value is a characteristic, quality, property, or state of this qualifier value)
- has kanji reading (phonetic reading or pronunciation of the kanji)
- publication type of scholarly work (type of this scholarly work (e.g. “systematic review”, “proceedings”, etc.))
- leased to (person or organisation that holds or was granted a lease on the subject)
- magazine capacity (number of projectiles or objects in the magazine feeding a weapon or tool)
- Newest External identifiers: GameReactor company ID, Latgales dati person ID, FantLab artist ID, RedBA Granada authority ID, NWIS site ID, MetalTabs.com band ID, Koha Kütüphane ID, HA! artwork ID, France television program ID, Radio France program ID, Grand Est inventory ID, Norwegian Media Authority's film rating ID, Historical Encyclopedia of Siberia ID, Münzkabinett ID, MyWaifuList character ID, Kramerius of Czech Digital Library UUID, European Parliament document ID, Western Australian Biographical Index, beniabbandonati (detailed sheet) ID, beniabbandonati (summary sheet) ID, Biblioteka Nauki article ID, Biblioteka Nauki journal ID, Biblioteka Nauki book ID, Biblioteka Nauki publisher ID, PNM Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom person ID, DDB person (GND) ID, CIRDOC publication ID, CIRDOC author ID, BAHRA ID, AniSearch person ID, Dwelly entry ID, Rate Your Music track ID, Spirit of Metal band ID, Madelen person ID, Babelio subject ID, Indo-Tibetan Lexical Resource ID, World Historical Gazetteer place ID, VG247 series ID, ITTF PTT ID, Lega Serie A player ID, Push Square series ID, LWW journal ID, Diccionario biográfico de Castilla-La Mancha ID, Enciclopedia bresciana ID, A digital concordance of the R̥gveda ID, Inathèque document ID, TEES ID, DVIDS unit ID, Korean Basketball League player ID, Acervo de Literatura Digital Mato-Grossense person ID, Acervo de Literatura Digital Mato-Grossense work of art ID, Atatürk Ansiklopedisi ID, Cihai encyclopedia entry ID, eHLFL ID, Songkick area ID, DDB institution ID, Enciclopedia medica ID, Sapere.it Italian Dictionary ID, Steam tag ID, L'Équipe basketball team ID, AELC author ID, TF1 info topic ID, RTL topic ID, Actu.fr topic ID, FAO fungal entity ID, France Info topic ID, KISTI institute ID, Israel Railways station number, Digital LIMC ID, TDK lexeme ID, Yandex Maps organization ID
- New General datatypes property proposals to review:
- chemical formula (Description of chemical compound giving element symbols and counts)
- mode of reproduction (ways for living organisms to propagate or produce their offsprings)
- health points (health or armor points of this video game, board game or role-playing game character)
- damage (damage value of this video game weapon, ability or character)
- Mummy of a person (mummy of a person)
- WPBSA com player ID (Identifier for an athlete on the main website of WPBSA)
- JLPT level (difficulty of word by the level of JLPT)
- beer style (Classification of a beer based on its style)
- has forks (Notable software forks of this software)
- Monument Counter ID (Digital memorial for women killed by violence)
- most populous settlement (city, town, or other settlement with the largest population in this area (country, state, county, continent, etc.))
- Eurotopics ID (A database containing data on European media.)
- rubrique d'une installation classée pour la protection de l'environnement (Industrial or agricultural operations generating risks to health and the environment are regulated in France. The various risks are organized into headings in the nomenclature of installations classified for environmental protection. The dangers, pollution and nuisances of each operation are listed by public authorities.)
- prototypical syntactic role of argument (qualifier for {{P|9971}} indicating the most basic/fundamental syntactic position of that argument for that verb sense (that is, when the argument structure is not subject to any alternations))
- operating cost (ongoing recurring cost for operating or using an object)
- effective life of asset (duration of time which an object/asset is expected to be used before needing to be disposed of or replaced)
- Toki Pona headnoun (Toki Pona common noun for which the name serves as a proper modifier)
- New External identifier property proposals to review: case id (mainland China), BioMed Central journal ID, Identifiant L'Humanité d’un sujet, Cihai dictionary entry ID, Duocet Wiki of Plants ID, vardnica.aizpute.lv ID, Department of Defense Identification Code, dtf.ru person ID, Identifiant Libération d’un sujet, NLI Newspaper Collection ID, obastan.com dictionary IDs, graphclasses.org ID, identifiant L'Équipe d'un basketteur, Journalistikon.de-ID, NRW-Archivportal-ID, Taiwan Railways station number, Taiwan Professional Basketball League ID, Damehåndbolddatabasen ID, Identifiant Les Inrockuptibles d'un sujet, Spirit of Metal IDs, Finlandssvenska bebyggelsenamn ID, VK track ID, GERS ID, European Legislation Identifier, Danbooru tag, Health Facility Registry ID, GamersGlobal genre, Innovating Knowledge manuscript ID, PublicationsList author ID, Alexander Keiller Museum ID, Archivportal-D-ID, Islamic Scientific Manuscripts Initiative, FID performing arts agent GND ID, Бессмертный полк ID, ITV News topic ID, FightTime fighters ID, Timenote.info Person ID, Thai railway station identifier, Dictionary of affixes used in Czech ID
You can comment on all open property proposals!
Did you know?
- Query examples:
- Newest WikiProjects: Psychology - This project aims to improve items related to psychology (Q9418).
- Showcase Items: Loomio (Q15975673): decision-making software to assist groups with collaborative decision-making processes
- Showcase Lexemes: کھاوَݨ / ਖਾਵਣ (L680110) mean to "eat" in in Urdu
Development
- Vector 2022: We are continuing to make Wikidata Items pages work in dark-mode (phab:T369385)
- EntitySchemas: We are continuing to work on making it possible to search for an EntitySchema by its label or alias when making a statement linking to an EntitySchema
- Wikibase REST API:
- We discussed what will constitute breaking changes for the API (phab:T357775)
- We are working on the endpoint for creating Properties (phab:T342992)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
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- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme above.
- Summarize your WikiProject's ongoing activities in one or two sentences.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Please take a look at Interpipe Group
[edit]There have been a series of editors on Interpipe Group engaging in serious copyright violations, POV pushing, adding material with no sources, adding material sourced back to the subject, etc. The problem is on-going. I am just a volunteer and have no idea how to deal with this. I also don’t have that much time Thanks. 2600:100F:A110:CF2C:89F7:79CC:32F8:C25F (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- The IP user is manipulating and falsely accusing me of things I haven't done. That's easy to check.
- The claim about "adding material with no sources" is untrue. I added four independent sources to the edits. However, the IP user removed the lines that were sourced from the Interfax agency, labeling this action as the deletion of the Forbes material with adding a link that had no connection to the actual edits.
- The IP user spent a lot of time attacking my edits and reverting the article without trying to offer any suggestions.
- So the only point I agree with the user is that your attention to edits is needed. Artpine98 (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- This article has issues similar to many articles about companies in that it doesn't really explain why it's notable. There are, in my opinion, too churnalism references. The references to constructionweekly.com are just quoting what Interpipe has announced without any apparent attempt at independent verification. mining-technology.com starts off ok then turns into directly quoting of Interpipe material "our ..." gets used repeatedly so you have to wonder how much of the rest is an objective assessment or a repeated press release. The history looks ok until we get to the last 10-15 years. Then I look at some of the statements and say "so what?" For example, "Interpipe Steel Mill melted its millionth ton of steel, just 15 months after the launch of the facility" Is there anything to compare this with? Is this achievement good, bad or indifferent? If there are independent sources that not only verify the statement but also put it into context then it's that level of quality that's needed.
- I think writing about existing companies is a really hard area to edit in, so the advice I'd offer is look for quality over quantity. Fewer statements with good sourcing are going to produce a better article, than numerous non-contextualised statements with less good sourcing. If you can't find an independent reliable source for a statement then just don't put it in.
- Please don't be discouraged by what I've written, we've all been there when we first started editing. Putting almost anything in, because we think it's an improvement, when actually it isn't. Take a step back, think about what you're going to add and consider, is it adding anything to the readers understanding of Interpipe? If the answer is no, then don't. Nthep (talk) 21:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review and advice. All my last updates were exclusively based on reliable sources like Reuters or Bloomberg. I've been more precise about information double-checking and avoiding press releases or company promos.
- Additionally, I've checked the lines you mentioned. They were added a couple of years ago by other editors.
- Thanks once again. I will follow your advice by further contributing. Artpine98 (talk) 10:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that all the churnalism in the article was down to you. I was commenting on the article as a whole. Apologies for not making this clear. Nthep (talk) 10:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand that.
- Unfortunately, there are new issues with the IP users again. Don't know if this is the same person commented here or the new one. They just delete lines and put false claims in descriptions. So I assume they are strongly motivated to keep anybody from adding to the article. This behavior is specific to IP accounts only.
- What do you do in such cases? Artpine98 (talk) 17:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that all the churnalism in the article was down to you. I was commenting on the article as a whole. Apologies for not making this clear. Nthep (talk) 10:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)